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[madbrain]

I have a HD Homerun Flex 4K. One JRiver MC instance on a Windows system is using it to record TV programs. The library is shared through DLNA.

If I use MC as a client on one Linux system, with no video tuner or capture hardware, I am able to tune to TV channels successfully, without having ever run Television setup.

If I use MC as a client on one Windows system, and try to tune to a TV channel, I get the error that "no television tuner is available to fulfill your request". The Windows client does have many video devices. However, I have disabled them all under Television / Manage devices, so the client should not attempt to use them. It should use the tuner shared by the server.

What am I missing ?

[tzr916]

What works for me is:
1. On the Server machine ensure that Tools > Options > Television > Advanced > Allow setup on clients => is not checked.
2. On Client machines do NOT run Tools > Options > Television > Setup. If you already have run TV Setup then do a Reset, and delete any Tuner Profiles on the Client machines.

Reboot the tuners and the Server machine, then reboot the Client machines.

PS: You might ask to have this topic moved to the TV sub-forum.

[madbrain]

Hi,

Thanks for your response. More inline.

What works for me is:
1. On the Server machine ensure that Tools > Options > Television > Advanced > Allow setup on clients => is not checked.

That was already unchecked.

2. On Client machines do NOT run Tools > Options > Television > Setup. If you already have run TV Setup then do a Reset, and delete any Tuner Profiles on the Client machines.

That was previously run. I tried to clear up everything, but that sent changes to the server and reset all the settings there, not on the client side. I had to restore them from a backup.

Reboot the tuners and the Server machine, then reboot the Client machines.

I rebooted them both, but unfortunately, there was no change in behavior.

What's the rationale for the reboots ? Shouldn't exiting and restarting JRiver MC on both sides be enough ? I have other daemons running on the host that runs JRiver MC server, so I prefer to avoid it.

PS: You might ask to have this topic moved to the TV sub-forum.

How/who do I ask to do this ?

[tzr916]

Clearing TV setup and Tuner profiles on a Client should not ever do anything to the setup on the Server.

I recommend reboots because changes to Client/Server configurations like these might not take effect until the MC Server Service is restarted and the Client re-connects to the newly restarted Service.

[madbrain]

Clearing TV setup and Tuner profiles on a Client should not ever do anything to the setup on the Server.

It does, because I have username authentication enabled on the DLNA server. This lets me delete programs from the server when I am done watching on a given client. That same feature also lets the client make changes to things like the server's TV lineup. So, I can't just reset it on the client while being connected to the library server.

If I disconnect the client from the library server, and use the local library, I can then set the TV settings.

However, once I reconnect to the server, and open a live TV channel, I get the same error that no television tuner is available.

I recommend reboots because changes to Client/Server configurations like these might not take effect until the MC Server Service is restarted and the Client re-connects to the newly restarted Service.

Making sure the processes are gone from task manager on both client & server sides, and restarting them in the right order is enough, IMO. I have a Home Assistant VM managing over 400 devices that I would rather not reboot unless required. I have been thinking about using Proxmox so that Windows (which hosts my MC server) can be rebooted separately, but that's probably in the distant future.

[tzr916]

Ah, I bet you are using DMS Tuner Stream method, and this the main reason why I don't! Because MC Clients cannot see if/when a tuner is busy on the Server when using DMS method... See the top of my list:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,110383.0.html

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...these are what's on my wish list:

- ATSC3 Encryption License (DRM/copy protection).
- Proper DMS Server-Client functionality.
- Bitstream audio for DMS Live tv.

It's a kinda huge "bug" which really needs to attention. Only work around would be to re-order the tuners, have the Server start at one end and the client at the other.

[madbrain]

Ah, I bet you are using DMS Tuner Stream method, and this the main reason why I don't! Because MC Clients cannot see if/when a tuner is busy on the Server when using DMS method...

Yes, it appears I'm using that method. I tried disabling the 4 DMS tuners on the servers, and leaving only the 4 ATSC tuners. However, I was then unable to tune to a TV channel - still using the server only.

It's a kinda huge "bug" which really needs to attention. Only work around would be to re-order the tuners, have the Server start at one end and the client at the other.

I have attached the TV device list for both the server and client.
Only the server shows the DMS tuners. The client does not.

How would I go about re-ordering the tuners, on either the client or server, so that my client can tune live TV ?

I also attached the TV device list for my Linux client. It is empty, and that client has no problem tuning live TV.

[tzr916]

Move UP / Move Down buttons in the bottom right corner.

[madbrain]

Move UP / Move Down buttons in the bottom right corner.

Thanks. I get that. My question was in which order I should place the devices to make TV tuning work on the Windows client.

[tzr916]

The opposite order of the server.