Topic: Chart,Lyrics,Bios, & Cover Art Finder 1.0.74 (Read 14990 times)

KingSparta · « **on:** June 08, 2003, 06:02:35 am »

Added A Requested Option To remove some info when doing cover art searches. you can turn this on or off

Basicly If this option is turned on It Will search the album name for a "(" if it is found it will cut the album name off.

Sample 1:

Search For: Aerosmith - A Little South Of Sanity (Disc 1)

When Searching Will Now Search For

Search For: Aerosmith - A Little South Of Sanity

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Sample 2

Search For: Backstreet Boys - Black And Blue (Japanese Retail)

When Searching Will Now Search For

Search For: Backstreet Boys - Black And Blue

'Touch Me (All Night Long) Charted At 02 In 1991

Listening to: 'Touch Me (All Night Long) (Club Mix)' from '100% Pure Dance' by 'Cathy Dennis' on Media Center 9.1

jeffh · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2003, 08:54:22 am »

Works great! Thanks...What service... Next place I am having problems finding art, etc... is multiple artist CDs. Your program seems to use the Artist name for each song, and not look for the various artist. MC seems to know a CD has multiple artists when it searches.

KingSparta · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2003, 10:05:23 am »

well one thing that can be added now that you say it is a lookup of the album name only.

One of the problems maybe If if The Album States "greatest Hits" it will come back with anything.

Can you give me some sample albums of cd art your talking about?

LisaRCT · « **Reply #3 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:51:05 am »

Hello King

Your program has progressed tremendously since I last used it, KUDO's

I do still see a long-standing 'bug' in that it still needs to steal and maintain focus . . . . . IF you can get focus on another program it steals it back or stops, worst case it crashes.
Any plans to change this?
Other than that, it works great!

KingSparta · « **Reply #4 on:** June 09, 2003, 10:39:25 am »

>> Any plans to change this?
the problem is one of the controls i use (you can't see)needs focus to work correctly.

maybe if i re-write it using something else.

but if you want the lyrics, cover art and bios and use the batch under the cover art you can minimize it and no problems.

if you use batch and batch all for the chart finder option it may unminimize and gain focus.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #5 on:** June 09, 2003, 11:15:53 am »

ok, thanks for the tip . . .

KingSparta · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2003, 08:03:16 am »

New 1.0.74

You can Now set the field you wish to save the Crart Finder Comment To.

Default Is: Comment

I tested this on my "Custom 1" Field and it worked fine.

just type in a valid MC9 field in the box provided

If you just want to download the OCX file a Link is provided on my website.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2003, 08:58:56 am »

Two questions / requests?

Any way to have this process files which are located elsewhere, other than in "Playing Now"? such as another playlist ('Recently Imported') or a hard-drive folder?

Any way to PAUSE the batching, rather than needing to STOP it, which when re-started re-process all files from the beginning of the entire list.

KingSparta · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2003, 09:00:36 am »

>> Any way to have this process files which
>> are located elsewhere
yes but this is the easy way for me

as for the hard drive, no since the program takes the info direct from the MC database and uses MC9 to do some of the work

>> Any way to PAUSE the batching
go to the lyrics page and press "Pause"

LisaRCT · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2003, 09:23:52 am »

LOL, well that makes sense
just didn't think of looking there . . . .

KingSparta · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2003, 09:26:48 am »

well the only reason i put it there was because when i was playing with lyrics i needed a pause button.

if you see a better place and there is room let me know i will move it.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2003, 10:12:24 am »

any idea where I keep getting these '1899' album dates from?
can't seem to change them or make em go away ?

KingSparta · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2003, 10:14:37 am »

well there was some changes in mc9.1 and that created a bug i guess, and i think that may be the problem. i think i read a fix for this with one of the recent builds of MC9.1

or i might have read it in a bug post or something.

here it is

MC9 9.1.196 should have fixed it

8. Fixed: MC was displaying 1899 for files with an empty date field.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2003, 04:32:07 pm »

I thought there had been such a thread, but paid little mind thinking that was over and gone. Running latest builds.
Tried to clear all those with bad dates (1899, 2006, etc) and re-run in chartfinder to get the correct tag, but there they are again

~ confused
any ideas or should I jump over to the 9.1 board with this?

LisaRCT · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2003, 04:56:04 pm »

May have found something . . .

on the "Chart Finder Setup 1" tab
at "comment rule if found"

es of 1899,Charted At #POS# In #YEAR#

dunno where this entry came from? jumped in from that 9.1.196 bug?

could it be doin it?

?

hey I am blonde

KingSparta · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2003, 05:18:01 pm »

yea, it could be another bug.

If after the program runs and 1899 is in there i would say thats a bug or they made changes in MC9 that makes the SDK not compatable with the Current Version Of MC9.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2003, 05:21:13 pm »

BTW I like your old avitar better . .
what was it like king tut?

KingSparta · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2003, 05:29:16 pm »

I Just Looked At It

I think the problem is because they are using "Date" and Not "Year" and they did not change the SDK

Since The SDK Still Is Valid As

Year = MJFile.Year

When it Should Be

Year = MJFile.Date

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I might Be Able to fix it however by using

Year = MJFile.Get("Date (year)", False)

KingSparta · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2003, 06:03:36 pm »

I reported this As A Bug In MC9.1.194 To Current Version Of MC9.1.199

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A User Reported A Problem With The Current Version And the SDK

Year = MJFile.Year (No Longer Works And Replaces Year With "1899")

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I Tried This And This Does Not Work Correctly And The Year Is Replaced With 1905

Year = MJFile.Get("Date (year)", False)

LisaRCT · « **Reply #19 on:** June 15, 2003, 03:17:48 am »

why thank you kind sir

KingSparta · « **Reply #20 on:** June 15, 2003, 04:16:35 am »

I Just Posted a new build that turns off year filed saving if you have a version over 9.0.180 untill this gets fixed.

this will allow other optons of the program to work

Same version # however

The Smaller OCX Is now Automaticly updated when the build is made so the smaller download is also aval on my web page

http://www.spartasoft.com

LisaRCT · « **Reply #21 on:** June 17, 2003, 07:07:05 am »

Hi King

Me thinks you are gonna grow to hate me for being such a pain
BUT

I find alot of CoverArt manually on Amazon.com when it cannot be found by MC9 or Chart, Lyrics, & Cover Art Finder.
This works well but is very tedious and time consuming.

Any way your program can search there?

KingSparta · « **Reply #22 on:** June 17, 2003, 07:09:42 am »

it already does

Amazon is a bit harder to get cover art from since the web pages change from time to time.

what do you think it is not finding on amazon.com?

LisaRCT · « **Reply #23 on:** June 17, 2003, 07:24:54 am »

I wasn't aware that you already searched there.
I just manually imported about a dozen cover art files which had been lingering in my collection as "Task - No Image"

I.E.:
Evanescence - Bring Me To Life
Ted Nugent - Double Live Gonzo
Gloria Estefan - Destiny
INXS - Greatest Hits

Perhaps they were not found automatically because of variations in naming?

KingSparta · « **Reply #24 on:** June 17, 2003, 07:55:50 am »

What Version Are You Using?

I Just Tried

>> Gloria Estefan - Destiny
This Is Spelled Wrong
My copy of the same album worked for me

>> Ted Nugent - Double Live Gonzo
It Worked for me

>> INXS - Greatest Hits
It Worked for me

if there is some extra junk in the album name i need to know that, but it worked for me.

there is an option to cut off extra junk in the album name.

Site #1 Is Walmart
Site #2 Is Amazon

make sure they are turned on to search Artiat And Album First And The Artist Name On Second Pass.

If it does not find the artist ad album at least it will find something.

c1c9k72 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 18, 2003, 09:13:16 am »

KingSparta,

I don't know if anybody has requested this, but would it be possible to include in some future build of the CLB&CA Finder the ability to extract the album release date from AllMusicGuide and load it into the Date (day,month,year) properties of MC 9.1+ ?

JeffreyK · « **Reply #26 on:** June 18, 2003, 09:28:05 am »

Was using .74 today and ran into a small problem - was looking up lyrics for the 10,000 Maniacs and all the searches were failing. After a bit of investigation, I noticed that the "," wasn't stripped out of the name and that leaving it in was breaking the http path.

Just a minor bug to fix sometime in the future...

-Jeff

JeffreyK · « **Reply #27 on:** June 18, 2003, 11:08:06 am »

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I Just Posted a new build that turns off year filed saving if you have a version over 9.0.180 untill this gets fixed.

I am seeing the same problem with .74 and MC 9.0.180 - all my years are being cleared when ChartFinder updates any tag (I have the year update option turned off in the setup pane). I noticed also that no matter what the year is set to in the tag, the chartfinder pane when that song is selected shows n/a for the year.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
-Jeff

KingSparta · « **Reply #28 on:** June 18, 2003, 01:24:30 pm »

I will fix the "," problem

I will look at the year problem

JaWe · « **Reply #29 on:** June 19, 2003, 09:48:26 am »

KingSparta,
could it be a good idea if we could select tag where we want chartinfo to be saved?
For example some custom tag instead of overwriting comments tag.

KingSparta · « **Reply #30 on:** June 19, 2003, 11:44:24 am »

it already does.

what version of the program do you have?

dbett · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2003, 11:14:08 am »

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all my years are being cleared when ChartFinder updates any tag (I have the year update option turned off in the setup pane).

Ditto here. Unfortunately, this makes it unusable.

Looking forward to getting some lyrics into my files once it's fixed.

Thanks for the effort.

KingSparta · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2003, 11:18:05 am »

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Ditto here. Unfortunately, this makes it unusable.

Looking forward to getting some lyrics into my files once it's fixed.

Thanks for the effort.

it may depend on

1. what version of MC9 your using since there was a slight bug in MC with the "Years" Field recently.

2. what version of Chart Finder You Have, 1.0.75 is current.

Since you provided no usefull information it is hard to provide help.

with the current version of MC9 and This program i see no problems.

JeffreyK · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2003, 05:46:47 pm »

I was seeing this with MC 9.0.180 and chart finder .74.

I just downloaded .75 and things look fine now.

-Jeff

dbett · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2003, 05:51:57 pm »

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it may depend on

I am using 9.0.180 (the latest release version) of MC. I was using 1.0.74 of your program. I just checked for an update and got the 1.0.75. Hope that does it.

Thanks for the program - it's a great addition to MC.

Two other questions:

1. Some of the lyrics I've downloaded are formated with no line breaks. Instead they have "[LF10]" where the line breaks should be. Any ideas how to fix this short of manually editing them?

2. I still can't get Bios to save in the file. It says they are found, but I don't see them in the Bios and Lyrics viewer or anywhere else. I've tried selecting and unselecting the "Append Bios to Bios Field" but it doesn't change anything. And is it possible to have the Bios saved in the Notes field so they are viewable in the various MC visualizations?

Thanks again. I really appreciate your efforts.

KingSparta · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2003, 06:00:13 pm »

dbett

I will Check Both Out Tomorrow.

"[LF10]" came from the Lyrics database not from the internet. i might have broke something.

in MC9 you can use find and replace, just replace "[LF10]" with ""

KingSparta · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2003, 02:47:56 am »

I checked Both Out I Beleave It Is Due To Your Settings

I did find a a problem when the settings are not correct that some info in the Lyrics database is not filtered. and I already fixed that.

About the Bios problem I also beleave that is due to your settings, and or you must have a internet connection active when using the program.

You may wish to Reboot, Load Program press "Load Default Settings" Button and then test.

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I have had moments where internet info was not passed from MC9 to the program when doing internet tasks and a reboot fixed it. the program uses MC9 SDK internet fuctions thru the MC9 SDK so if that is not working then you will get no bios pages to download.

at any rate it works here.

jeffh · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2003, 09:13:32 am »

I am running 9.1.203 with 1.0.76 of chart finder. Still seems to be a date problem. I see chart finder setting dates to 1899 on files that have an empty date before I start chart finder.

KingSparta · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2003, 09:16:58 am »

>> I see chart finder setting dates to 1899
that is a MC9.1 Problem

they are still working out the bugs, that has nothing to do with my program.

for those of you who do not keep up with MC9 bugs.

this bug was introduced into MC9 sometime back not sure the exact build but sometimes MC9 will save dates at 1899 or 1905 no matter what it was before. i was hoping this bug would have been fixed by now maybe the next build of MC9 I just don't know.

Untill that time I would not use the program if this is going to screw up your dates. i think in the current Build if it has a date it works if it is blank it does save the date as 1899.

Untill Matt updates MC9 and the SDK this bug will continue.

jeffh · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2003, 09:34:34 am »

Thanks for the quick reply. Not sure why, but I thought the bug in MC had been fixed...

KingSparta · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2003, 09:48:54 am »

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Thanks for the quick reply. Not sure why, but I thought the bug in MC had been fixed...

Only Part Of It

It's not like my program screws up the year and does that 1899 or 1905 thing

here is the code for year

Get From MC9
Year = MJFile.Year

Save Back To MC9
MJFile.Year = Year

Not like I can screw it up to much

matshif · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2003, 11:33:17 am »

Downloading Chart Grabber or Chart Finder are a little bit confusing.
Doesn't matter if you download the one or the other. You get the information that you are downloading Package "Chart Grabber" and when you are opening Chart Finder in MC 9 beta it tells you that there is a never version of the Finder.
/Mats

KingSparta · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:30:34 pm »

it might be my fault.

Ok It Should Be Fixed...

Please Try it Now.

matshif · « **Reply #43 on:** June 21, 2003, 12:53:26 pm »

Nice work.
It's working. I have 1.0.76 and 0.0.02 and I got them correctly from the wright place.

Thank you so much

/Mats

JeffreyK · « **Reply #44 on:** June 22, 2003, 01:16:15 pm »

KingSparta - a few more things I've noticed while getting lyrics for songs:

1) www.lyricsstyle.com seems to be a dead site (at least, clicking on the button in lyrics page always results in a non-existent site)

2) LyricsDownload appears to also strip - and ' characters (check their site for lyrics for the B-52's)

3) GetLyrics, which seems to be the biggest site (and thus the one I'd like to have working

) has a number of interesting issues:

a) It doesn't strip out characters like &,',-,?, and commas, instead it inserts the escape characters for them (ie, & becomes %26) again, check the B-52's.

b) album and song titles need to be exact - I've noticed a few things that might be nice to try when the tagged strings fail: changing "and" to "&", stripping off anything in () at the end of songs, removing "The" or ", The" from the artist (B-52's are also listed as "B-52's, The").

c) Some artists have a variety of lyrics that aren't under an album and instead are under the album "Miscellaneous" (check out B.B. King lyrics) - it would be nice to try that album when the tagged album name fails.

So far, I just edit song titles, album names, and artist names to get things correct to download, but it would be nice to not have to do that...

Don't get me wrong - I love your program and am very happy with it - I'm just making suggestions for improvement.

Thanks for considering them!
-Jeff

KingSparta · « **Reply #45 on:** June 22, 2003, 01:50:19 pm »

I will look at it later this week or when Year is working again.

I am working on someting else right now.

KingSparta · « **Reply #46 on:** June 23, 2003, 02:38:00 pm »

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1) www.lyricsstyle.com seems to be a dead site (at least, clicking on the button in lyrics page always results in a non-existent site)

not dead, i have "wwww" for the link next build this will be fixed.

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2) LyricsDownload appears to also strip - and ' characters (check their site for lyrics for the B-52's

striping of this chr for www.lyricsdownload.com will be turned off in the next build

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3) GetLyrics, which seems to be the biggest site (and thus the one I'd like to have working ) has a number of interesting issues:

a) It doesn't strip out characters like &,',-,?, and commas, instead it inserts the escape characters for them (ie, & becomes %26) again, check the B-52's.

striping for the chrs listed will be done to both the artist and song name in the next build

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b) album and song titles need to be exact - I've noticed a few things that might be nice to try when the tagged strings fail: changing "and" to "&", stripping off anything in () at the end of songs, removing "The" or ", The" from the artist (B-52's are also listed as "B-52's, The").

I know, it would be nice

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c) Some artists have a variety of lyrics that aren't under an album and instead are under the album "Miscellaneous" (check out B.B. King lyrics) - it would be nice to try that album when the tagged album name fails.

not sure I can have it guess what album names are, if you have an idea on how i would guess what an album name would be please let me know, maybe i can add that as an added value option "[X] E.S.P. Enabled"

JeffreyK · « **Reply #47 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:17:13 pm »

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striping for the chrs listed will be done to both the artist and song name in the next build

Note that for getlyrics.com, the characters need to converted, not stripped...

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not sure I can have it guess what album names are, if you have an idea on how i would guess what an album name would be please let me know, maybe i can add that as an added value option "[X] E.S.P. Enabled"

For songs that getlyrics.com doesn't know the album for, they always seem to be under the album "Miscellaneous" (at least that was true for the 3 or 4 artists I looked at), so after failing to find the lyric under the right album, it would be worth trying that album name.

Thanks for fixing/looking into these issues/requests!
-Jeff

KingSparta · « **Reply #48 on:** June 24, 2003, 02:28:21 am »

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a) It doesn't strip out characters like &,',-,?, and commas, instead it inserts the escape characters for them (ie, & becomes %26) again, check the B-52's.

I do not incert %26, i think the site does that

about the "[X] E.S.P. Enabled" i will think about it.

JeffreyK · « **Reply #49 on:** June 24, 2003, 07:57:44 am »

Sorry - I am not explaining this well. Let me give an example:

Artist: 10,000 Maniacs
Album: Blind Man's Zoo
Song: The Lion's Share

Navigating the www.getlyrics.com site, I get the following hyperlink to get to the lyrics page:
http://www.getlyrics.com/print.php?Artist=10000+Maniacs&Album=Blind+Man%27s+Zoo&Song=The+Lion%27s+Share

Running ChartFinder for the same song and site, I get:
http://www.getlyrics.com/print.php?&Artist=10,000+Maniacs&Album=Blind+Man's+Zoo&Song=The+Lions+Share
shown in the status bar as the link it tried and failed.

I've just realized that this is not because of the lack of a conversion to characters like %27, but actually due to the extra , in 10,000 and the missing ' in Lion's. Unlike LyricsDownload, which needed the , and stuff removed, getlyrics seems to need them.

Sorry for the confusion...
-Jeff

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