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[jake]

I noticed this problem in .309 and upgraded to .316 hoping it would be fixed.
When I burn a CD, all but the first tracks start a few seconds into the song. When listening to a burned disc from the beginning, it sounds fine and no music is missing, but the track number changes late resulting in missing the beginning when skipping around the disc.

Also, a more minor issue I've noticed; I cannot drag an album's name to the burn area any longer, it asks me what type of disc I want to create, but doesn't add the files within the album to the burn queue. It works fine if I select the individual tracks and drag them however.

Media Center Registered 9.1.316 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2253 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 198 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1276 / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1233 (xpsp2.030604-1804) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:IDE   Read speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive D: LITE-ON  LTR-24102M         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

[Sauzee]

Oh dear, that indexing bug is back again.  It keeps getting fixed in one build and then re-appearing again.

I first experienced it about approx 6 months ago. In the past it has sometimes been accompanied by garbled CD-Text.

I really hope this gets fixed. It's a pretty major bug in my book.

[JohnT]

To help me try to replicate this problem, please give me some more information:

1. the file format (mp3, wma, etc) you are burning
2. on the CD writer settings page, under "Audio CD Options", which options are checked (decode file direct, write cd-text, apply cross fade...)?
3. if "apply cross-fade" is checked, click on the "Settings" button and let me know what "transition between tracks" and "gap" are set to, also the setting of "decode files directly" and "omit silence". Also, click the DSP studio button and let me know which, if any, DSP options are checked

Thanks!
John T.
JRiver, Inc.

[jake]

Hi John,

Sorry, I thought everything you needed was in the system info I pasted. I'm trying to burn a complete album which I had ripped into vbr mp3s. I have cd-text enabled, but dsp/crossfade is turned off.  I also have it set to decode directly to cd.

thanks!

[loraan]

In an old release of 9.1, I fixed this by turning off "decode directly to CD". I haven't turned it back on again because I hate wasting CDs. I'd love to hear that this was fixed, though.

[JohnT]

Hi John,

Sorry, I thought everything you needed was in the system info I pasted. I'm trying to burn a complete album which I had ripped into vbr mp3s. I have cd-text enabled, but dsp/crossfade is turned off.  I also have it set to decode directly to cd.

thanks!

Any chance of you sending me some of those mp3 vbr files?  I created a bunch of vbr files here and burned them to CD but couldn't reproduce the problem. If those files were created outside of MC, there may be a problem with MC incorrectly calculating their length prior to the burn.

Thanks!

johnt @ jriver.com

[JohnT]

Oh dear, that indexing bug is back again.  It keeps getting fixed in one build and then re-appearing again.

I first experienced it about approx 6 months ago. In the past it has sometimes been accompanied by garbled CD-Text.

I really hope this gets fixed. It's a pretty major bug in my book.

Sauzee-
Are you also experiencing this problem? If so, please give some more specifics so I can replicate it here. There was a fix for indexing innacuracy a few builds ago. That problem always existed but could be worse for certain file types and burning settings. The cd-text problem was unrelated and was fixed a while back.

[jake]

I can send you the files to try, they are a full album of vbr mp3's encoded with MC using custom vbr --alt-preset standard. I recorded them on one machine and copied them over to another machine (the one with my burner) for burning.

I did try loraan's suggestion of switching off "decode directly to cd" and that seems to have fixed the problem.

i've been using MC for almost 2 years and did experience the garbled CD-Text problem, but that was sucessfully resolved quite some time ago. I usually take any new CD and rip it to MC, then burn it back to CD with CD-text to make my changer happy.  I'm pretty certain this problem appeared between the latest "stable" build (.309?) and the prior one as I've been allowing MC to update itself whenever it wishes and the problem just started with the last update, which prompted me to install .316 in an attempt to fix this.

john, if you really want the actual files, I will send them to you, please let me know how you'd like to receive them since they are big enough to overwhelm some email boxes.

thanks!

[JohnT]

If possible, try sending one of them (the smallest) to my email address. I'll make 10 or 12 copies of it and burn them to disk to see if I can replicate the problem here. If that doesn't work, I can send you a diagnostic version of the cd burner that may help track down the problem.

Thanks,
johnt @ jriver.com

[Sauzee]

Oh dear, that indexing bug is back again.  It keeps getting fixed in one build and then re-appearing again.

I first experienced it about approx 6 months ago. In the past it has sometimes been accompanied by garbled CD-Text.

I really hope this gets fixed. It's a pretty major bug in my book.

Sauzee-
Are you also experiencing this problem? If so, please give some more specifics so I can replicate it here. There was a fix for indexing innacuracy a few builds ago. That problem always existed but could be worse for certain file types and burning settings. The cd-text problem was unrelated and was fixed a while back.

JohnT

No - when I posted that I was commenting/reacting to the previous posters comment that he had encountered an indexing related problem, which I had also experienced in a few previous builds.  

I had actually stopped using MC for burning. However, after reading your post I thought I'd give MC burning another go.  Pleased to say I burnt 6 CD's from CBR mp3's with CD text  using latest 9.1 build no problem.

I wonder if you could expand on  

That problem always existed but could be worse for certain file types and burning settings

.

Are there file types/situations we should watch out for?


Sorry if I misled anyone into thinking that I was reporting current bugs in MC.

[JohnT]

I wonder if you could expand on  

That problem always existed but could be worse for certain file types and burning settings

.

Are there file types/situations we should watch out for?

There shouldn't be any problems now, unless there turns out to be an mp3 vbr problem that Jake has found. Previously, the input plugins used for decoding directly to the CD burn were reporting innacurate file lengths which led to the indexing inaccuracy. Some of the input plugins were worse than others (ape & wav were the best, wma was the worst).