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lee269

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Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« on: January 25, 2004, 11:59:19 am »

I have a problem with one track on an album having a much higher replay gain value than the rest of the tracks (+6.12dB compared to avg -6dB for the rest). This means that this particular song is much louder than the others, and it stands out awkwardly when listening to the album.

Its particularly irritating as the 'song' in question is the first track on Dark Side of the Moon (Speak to Me) which starts with the heartbeat and builds to a crescendo of screaming etc. and is followed seamlessly by the next track. I guess that might be why RG wants to increase the volume - because the track is mostly very quiet. But it makes listening to the whole album impossibe. I know Im not missing the best part skipping track 1, but it does detract from the DSOTM 'experience'

Im trying to figure out a way of 'correcting' the value, preferably without amending the actual files involved. Might be paranoia, but Im not keen on tampering with them. I suppose I could merge the track and the next one, or try mp3gain, which I never use, but is there a more non invasive way? Ive tried re-analysing.

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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2004, 12:06:17 pm »

I asked a while back if the Replay Gain value could be made editable so situations like this could be corrected on the tracks where this is a problem.

Apparently, this is not something J River are willing to do (why, I don't know).

What I'd really like to see is an "album replay gain" feature whereby all tracks on an album are set to the same amount of gain (perhaps the average for all the tracks?) so their relative volume remains consisten.  This is something that's regularly requested by people on this forum and cropped up a few times in the "v10 wishlist" threads, so you never know...
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lee269

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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2004, 12:35:50 pm »

Madcow: Thanks, I too have seen the album gain requests. Although, RG as it stands has worked well on albums for me so far. I think Im probably out of luck, but Im holding out in case anyone has inspiration...


Incidentally my recording was made from my LP, and so the track splits are probably not exactly the same as the CD. I know others will have this in their libraries (ToMy00 for sure :)). Can anyone let me know how RG treats this album in their libraries, and how/if they solved this?
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2004, 12:40:17 pm »

Hi Lee

Just ck mine.

Its a -6.4 for Speak to Me.

Riped from cd.

Griff
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2004, 12:59:30 pm »

Thanks Griff. Originally I recorded the LP, declicked and burned it to an audio CD before ripping the CD into MC. Just played the CD in my hifi and it sounds fine. Obviously something about my recording has confused RG. Im wondering if your -6.4 and my +6.12 are too close for coincidence and something went wrong somewhere along the line. Ill probably try a rerip.
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2004, 02:38:48 pm »

Hi Lee

Incase you want these:

On the Run -4.68
Time -9.62
The Great Gig in the Sky -8.83

I think that was all, for that side of the LP. (cant remember)

Any chance you would know where I could pick up cover art, equal or greater than 500 x 500 for Delicate Sound of Thunder ?

Thanks
Griff
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2004, 03:02:00 pm »

Griff: I just checked walmart.com and they have delicate sound of thunder @ 500x 500. All their cover art is 500 x 500.
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2004, 03:05:40 pm »

Until MC implements some sort of album gain, the easiest thing to do is create a new playback zone that doen't have Replay Gain enabled and just switch to that for those albums that RG causes problems on.

Rob
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Re:Adjusting 'incorrect' Replay Gain Values
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2004, 03:40:10 pm »

Griff: I just checked walmart.com and they have delicate sound of thunder @ 500x 500. All their cover art is 500 x 500.

Thanks, you made my day.

Been looking for that for a long time.

Been there befor, but either they didnt have the album or it was low res.

Thanks again
Griff
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