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[GHammer]

I have a 2 CD set that plays fine on any audio CD player.
When I try to load it on my computer, the CDs are not recognized. I have a Sony and a Plextor. I've never had that sort of problem before.

Any ideas?
Thanks.

[LonWar]

What CD's?

[Matthew]

Some Audio CDs are Copy Protected.

http://www.macrovision.com/solutions/music.shtml

Most CD-Rom drives don't read Copy Protected Audio CD's.

In my opinion, companies have the right to protect
them selfs from pirate Masters.

Did you know that, It would be illegal for a CD-Rom drive in a computer to actually read copy protected audio CDs? (that's what I heard).
.

[pank2002]

... or your drive isn't up to it.  Some drives just can't handle copy protected cds. Fx my new LiteOn couldn't read one cd, though I could rip just fine on another drive.
  Look on the disc. Does it have the Compact Disc sign? Or a Copy protected sign - a triangle on the side with a circle in it, if I remember correct.

[GHammer]

What CD's?

Diana Krall- All For You

No, I see no Triangles, etc on the case. They are HDCD format, but I have a lot of those and never have a problem.

Oh, well, I'll just play them into the sound card and capture the output. Not as nice as a direct rip, but it'll be ok.

[LonWar]

Some Audio CDs are Copy Protected.

http://www.macrovision.com/solutions/music.shtml

Most CD-Rom drives don't read Copy Protected Audio CD's.

In my opinion, companies have the right to protect
them selfs from pirate Masters.

Did you know that, It would be illegal for a CD-Rom drive in a computer to actually read copy protected audio CDs? (that's what I heard).
.

Phillips owns the patent for Compact Disc. No companies that use copy protection is allowed to use the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo. They must also display the copy protection logo.

Phillips is in the works to make a cd drive that will play and copy and protected cd.
Currently there are some drives that have no problems copy those cd's. Mine is one of them.

[Matthew]

Philips is a dangerous company.

They are against the MacroVision company.

They manufactured hundreds of VCRs,
that ignore the MacroVision anticopying process.

However, they are manufacturing DVD recorders that
ignore the MacroVision signal as well.

They are not law biding citizens.

Even though it's a good name brand.

[Sauzee]

Philips is a dangerous company.

They are against the MacroVision company.

They manufactured hundreds of VCRs,
that ignore the MacroVision anticopying process.

However, they are manufacturing DVD recorders that
ignore the MacroVision signal as well.

They are not law biding citizens.

Even though it's a good name brand.

Sound like quite a good company to me.

[JimH]

I agree with Mathew.  The law is questionable, but it is the law.  

[Chili-Jam]

There's a german database that lists copy protected discs:

http://www.heise.de/ct/cd-register/default.shtml?s=suche

Dina Krall isn't listed but the database is far from complete.
In Europe copy protection is already well established.
If a cd has the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo it is not allowed to have
copy protection.

I own about 800 LPs and 1000 CDs and i'm not going to buy any cd that i can't listen to on my Ipod.

[zevele10]

Philips is a dangerous company.

And you a funny poster- You give us a lot of fun
Your polls are just great , just close to THE MARX BROTHERS

[Sir Alan]

They are against the MacroVision company.

Good for them.

They manufactured hundreds of VCRs,
that ignore the MacroVision anticopying process.

However, they are manufacturing DVD recorders that
ignore the MacroVision signal as well.

They are not law biding citizens.

Is it actually illegal to manufacture or sell equipment which simply ignores Macrovision?

[Matthew]

Yeah, its illegal to sell VCRs/DVD Recorders that ignore the MacroVision process they are violating DMCA.

[Sir Alan]

Yeah, its illegal to sell VCRs/DVD Recorders that ignore the MacroVision process they are violating DMCA.

Ok - what's DMCA?  And does it apply in Europe where I live?  (and Philips is a Dutch company).

[Matthew]

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) it applies to all companies.

It would be illegal to manufacture a VCR/DVD Recorder that ignores the macrovision anticopying process.

[JimH]

Ok - what's DMCA?  And does it apply in Europe where I live?  (and Philips is a Dutch company).

It's the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.  It was passed by the U.S. Congress a few years ago.  It was the work of the content owners and it wasn't good for most users.

[Rizlaw]

What CD's?

Diana Krall- All For You

No, I see no Triangles, etc on the case. They are HDCD format, but I have a lot of those and never have a problem.

Oh, well, I'll just play them into the sound card and capture the output. Not as nice as a direct rip, but it'll be ok.

Interesting, I have all of Diana Krall's CDs and they all ripped, without problems, into MC9.1 and 10.

[Alex B]

I think the old basics are not relevant anymore. I think the question here should be what the CD, DVD etc. products really are. I my opinion they should be considered as containers for carrying the products home. The legal user, who paid for that, should have all rights to use the contents for personal amusement in every way desired. E.g. a right to transfer the contents to the playback equipment. That can be a PC computer with Media Center or an iPod or something else.

That should also be the case with the legal web based services. It is not good for anybody if the files are copy protected. Not for the business and not for the customer.

I know this has been said many times before, but I just have to say it again:
There are always ways to break copy control systems. So those systems do not prevent pirating or other illegal usage. Instead copy control systems may turn some people to illegal sources.