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[mikewillnot]

I've lately downloaded several different MP3 versions of Norah Jones' song Come Away With Me, encoded at different bit rates, and noticed an odd thing.  One version that seems to be widely shared, encoded at 128, is of dramatically higher quality than any of the 160 versions, and as good as or better than any of the 192 versions.  I'm puzzled, and wondering how that was accomplished.  The 128 file has no information that I can access (metadata?) that would indicate the compression software or method used.  Any thoughts?  

[zevele10]

Search for EncSpot and run it.
You may get indications.
But keep in mind that this program is not very reliable

[mikewillnot]

Thanks for the suggestion.  EncSpot reports that the unusually good rip was created by Xing(new).  I have very few files in my collection created with this encoder (like, 0), and have little experience with RealNetworks products, since I quit using them a couple of years ago.  Hmmmm.  I see that Xing is available by purchase for $20.  I wonder how it compares with Ogg Vorbis, which I've been thinking about trying on a more extended basis.    

[xen-uno]

for MP3: Xing is considered the worst encoder, LAME the best (at least from 3.90 on)

v1 Ogg quality is right up there with the MPC (most highly tuned lossy format at high bit rates).

Xenno

[zevele10]

XEN

a 128 kps Xing encoded mp3 sounds great!!?!!!
Kind of madness no?


mikewillnot.

SAVE YOUR $$$$$$$$

The only good thing about Xing is that it is a very fast encoder.

If you need to rip fast on the fly to m3 using Xing  can be acceptable if you use VRB 192 kps.
By acceptable i mean if you are in rush ,you can rip on the fly  in less time than others programs rip to wav only.
Time/quality is acceptable.
But Lame is xxxxx times  better.I mean at the same settings. A 128 kps CBR lame is not better than a Xing 192 kps VBR.

But a lame 192 kps VBR is xxxx times better than a Xing .

If you really want to  try the Xing encoder,few things : the Xing encoder does not work with ME and 2000.
Better  to use the Xing encoder in AudioCatalyst.

If you REALLY want to try it,email me ........

Concerning EncSpot.

The Xing mp3 gets which color?
What are the results concerning the other mp3?

Look like mister transcoding strike  again....

[dobon]

Mikewillnot: How can you know the bad files were ripped from the original cd? You can not. There are lots of garbage on the p2p-services. The tracks could be encoded from analog or digital broadcasts. They could be coded and re-encoded, maybe several times. Somebody may even put out bad files on purpose. The differences between the encoders are much more sublime. Stay with lame for mp3.