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[soothsayer]

  I'm using MC 11.0 with EAC doing the ripping "test & copy selected tracks - uncompressed". It creates an artist folder and a sub folder with the album title with the tracks inside. I've enabled CD-TEXT. When I import into MC it just lists all the songs mixed together not grouped in albums?  I used the tutorial at  http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac00.htm  to setup EAC and the music sounds great but....before I store any more of my collection I need to find out if my file structure is right.

[JimH]

Why not use MC's ripping and simplify things?

[soothsayer]

I'm trying to get an exact copy fo the cd. I'm also using Cinemar's MusicLobby to access the collection. I'm figuring if I get MC right it should show up in MusicLobby. ?

[JimH]

MC's ripping is equal to or better than EAC's.  Set in "Secure" mode if you want to be extra careful.

[Myron]

MC's ripping is equal to or better than EAC's.  Set in "Secure" mode if you want to be extra careful.

Jim,

Could you tell us EXACTLY what MC does in "Secure" mode?  I know it's suppsed to do multiple reads of the CD, but what happens from there?  Majority vote, averaging?  What happens if half the reads say one thing and the other half another?

[JimH]

It reads until it gets the same results multiple times.

It also has to get around the "feature" that some CD drives have of caching what they have read, since the cache normally gets sent each time, even if bad.

A search here might tell you more.  It may also be discussed in MC's Help.

[soothsayer]

I just tried it and all I ended up with was one large wav with no folder or tags that show up in MC. I have it in the secure mode, what settings will enable it to create it's own file and tags.

[modelmaker]

What Jim said is true, MC has been tested against EAC extensively (do a forum search during the first half of '04) and was found to be actually better than in EAC in secure mode and equal to in the other modes.

Because EAC was the best for so long (prior to MC 9) and MC isn't as widely known there is still a lot of misinformation and prejidice out on the net.

On the more practical side, as long as you have good quality CD-R (DVD-R) and the CDs are in "new" condition, you don't really have to use "secure" ripping (it's much slower because of the multiple re-reads). Use your ears to compare. "Secure mode" is excellent for less than perfect CDs.

Try using .ape lossless encoding, it will save space on your hard drive (it compresses at 2or3 to 1) and reproduces a CD bit for bit. Again, use your ears to compare.

And lastly, you have in MC the ability to customize your file naming and structure and import criteria to your heart's content and once configured, it's basically hands free....stick in a CD and hit rip!

[JimH]

I just tried it and all I ended up with was one large wav with no folder or tags that show up in MC. I have it in the secure mode, what settings will enable it to create it's own file and tags.

For testing, try ripping to APE or WMA.

[soothsayer]

Jim
    Thanks for the help, I'll test things. I'm using a big home theater setup with $6000/pr studio monitors so any little difference can be heard. So far EAC w/AccurateRip was doing great at sound quality and ease of ripping uncompressed but no tags. I've ripped about 50 albums so far in EAC.
Is there any manual tagging that could be done?

[JimH]

You can tag anything that you rip, but you may not need to. 

Sound quality with APE or any other lossless format will be identical to WAV or CD if played through the same equipment.

[Alex B]

I just tried it and all I ended up with was one large wav with no folder or tags that show up in MC. I have it in the secure mode, what settings will enable it to create it's own file and tags.

Uncheck this if it is enabled in Advanced Ripping Options: "Rip to single file with cue rather than separate files". The name is self-explanatory.

CD Rip Settings > File location has settings for folder and filename rules.

MC can get the tags from an internet database, but if the CD is not found you must type the information.