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Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« on: October 06, 2002, 03:24:41 pm »

Jack Frost is coming.   Maybe not tonight.  Maybe not tomorrow, but he is near.  

So tonight I pulled the tomatoes out of the ground and folded the vines as carefully as I could into the old red wheelbarrow (now faded to a sort of red-orange).  

I put the wheelbarrow in the garage under a window where the leaves may continue to work for a few days while the vines dry out.

Last year, I did the same for cherry tomatoes and it worked pretty well.  They continued to ripen for about another month.  Then the ones that fell off dried themselves into a different kind of tomato, but still tasty.

The tomatoes this year are the heirloom variety.  Old stock, not hybrids, so the seed should grow the same tomato next year.

Hope I'll be here to find out.


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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2002, 04:03:10 pm »

You don't have much of a growing season

Everything but weeds are dead here.

I think frost is still a month off.
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2002, 05:13:57 pm »

Frost?

You poor dudes! In Brisbane, Australia, we rarely get frost.

There is no snow in Winter.

We're just ramping up to a nice hot summer, the birds are zooming around, fishing's changing over to summer species (and it's easier to get up at 4AM to go), I am halfway thru ripping my ~900CD collection using MJ, life is good, and I am at rest with my world.

I could not live somewhere where:

there is frost / snow / sleet w lotta the time
the ground is frozen solid for half the year
you cant go outside in case the snot in your nose freezes, and, as your lips are frozen shut, you end up suffocating, and being discovered behind a woodpile early the next summer

These things are all alien to me...

Enjoy your Winter!
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2002, 05:23:17 pm »

>> You poor dudes! In Brisbane, Australia,
>>  we rarely get frost.

>> There is no snow in Winter.
I feel Sorry For you not having Snow In Winter

More So Before December 25th
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2002, 05:25:34 pm »

Hey King, If I wanna freeze my arse off, I can lie in a bath full of ice cubes.

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2002, 05:34:01 pm »

Now Thats Cold
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2002, 07:53:54 pm »

You should feel lucky.  It was 90 degrees here in Greenville, SC on Saturday!
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2002, 11:14:23 pm »

FROST!!!!!!!
At the begining of October!!!!!

Even in Norway they do not get frost at this time.

King
Even south as you are you get frost in November ?and snow?I may be wrong,but you are in Caroline?

I cannot stand the summer heat here,but we have winters really nice.No frost or snow in te costal plain where is Tel-Avi.
But some in the Golan and-sometimes- in Jerusalem.
We do not miss the snow for Christmass,because there is no Christmass here.

We are waiting for the first rains since few months,hope we will have it soon
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2002, 05:08:01 am »

We had a definite frost last night. Had to pull out the scraper for the car windows for the first time.
We're starting to get some nice orange/red color in the maple trees.
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2002, 07:39:41 am »

>> Even south as you are you get frost in November ?
>> and snow?
First Off Weather Is Wether Around Here

That Said, Somtime In November We Should Have Frost, But Then In The Day Time It Will Get Into The 70's And 80's

Current 5 Day Forcast For East North Carolina



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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2002, 12:07:42 pm »

Minneapolis, MN  USA:
(low/high temps in fahrenheit)

Mon.  32/50  

Tue.  43/56  

Wed.  40/57  

Thur.  42/62  

Fri.  45/64  

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2002, 12:52:46 pm »

What is the 'below zero'=frost in Fah...?

My post was in Fah..as well.In centigrades,90 is the bolling point for water!!
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2002, 11:23:28 am »

haha! centigrades??? Wow...a new word for it :)

Celsius works too :)
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2002, 12:11:46 pm »

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What is the 'below zero'=frost in Fah...?
My post was in Fah..as well.In centigrades,90 is the bolling point for water!!

In fahrenheit, 32 is freezing, 212 is boiling (nice round numbers eh??). In January/February, we usually get a few 30 degree below zero days - that's 62 degrees below freezing (about -34 celsius I think).

I think you meant 100 for the boiling point in centigrade (celsius), unless you're high in the mountains.
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2002, 02:20:21 pm »

I think i learned in school that it is 90,but i am not sure

I had few days in Oslo at 30-32 below.But i fact you do not feel that much the difference with the days before at 10-15 below zero.

I did not realise it was so cold near the 'grands lacs' .
It is because of the lacs that it is so cold? Or all noth west is cold?North Montana,Dakota,Washington are as cold?

Centigrade is an english word as well=a grade:100
centimeter=a meter:100
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2002, 07:22:22 pm »

>(nice round numbers eh??).

The Fahrenheit scale has a logical foundation.  http://www.wiskit.com/marilyn/fahrenheit.html

I regularly use both the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales, and their relatives the Rankine and Kelvin scales.  For scientific matters, it doesn't matter to me what scale I'm using.  For day-to-day living, I prefer Fahrenheit, because the resolution is a bit finer.  I can feel the difference between 71 and 72 degF.  But that's probably because I'm getting old and my feet get cold.

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2002, 10:30:27 pm »

Interesting....

This morning it's 281 Kelvin in Paris (+8 Celsius, 47 F), pretty cold !

Zev, JohnT is right, 100 Celsius is the boiling point for pure water at sea level.

History of celsius scale -> http://www.astro.uu.se/history/celsius_scale.html

On the ethymology of centigrade -> http://www.bartleby.com/64/C004/016.html

After the weather forecast plugin maybe we should start thinking about the Encyclopedia plugin ??

Have a nice (sunny) day.

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2002, 04:37:12 am »

Scronch

Why the Fahrenheit scale ?
Why this used in USA?
Why not to use a x10 numeric system?Much more easy to use

It is hard to  believe you when you say you can feel the difference between 71 and 72.
Kind of if i can feel the difference between 15,6 and 15,8 celsius.

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2002, 02:41:05 pm »

It is hard to believe you when you say you can feel the difference between 71 and 72.
Kind of if i can feel the difference between 15,6 and 15,8 celsius.


No, it's the difference between 21.67 degC and 22.22 degC, a difference of 0.55 degC (the 5/9 conversion factor).  I really can feel a 1 degF difference within certain ranges.  In other ranges, of course not.  For example, at 0 degF or -1 degF, the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field is still cold.  But seeing those Vikings saunter off the field with their heads hanging warms me to my very soul.

The factor of 100 is pretty meaningless when it comes to scientific application of a temperature scale.  It does help when working with distances, forces, pressures, etc.

Metric system proponents are all hypocrites anyway--they still use the old Babylonian sexagesimal (base 60) time unit (60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour).  Not to mention the Egyptian choice of 24 hours in a day.  They similarly use the Greek sexagesimal metric for angles.  Until they dump those units, I turn a deaf ear to their whining.  The choice of units is meaningless if you're careful.

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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2002, 03:58:57 pm »

The Red Wheelbarrow

so much depends  
upon  

a red wheel  
barrow  

glazed with rain  
water  

beside the white  
chickens.  


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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2002, 04:07:17 pm »

Scronch
Just because you are in the US.If born in Europe ,metric would be your way .
From an outside point of view,look to me metric is much easy.Just a zero more or less.
But if you learn other system from kid age,must be as easy using this other one.

I had a look at your link.But

What was the goal of the Fh system?To which use?

And why it is the US unity when most of the emigrants coming from places with celsius system?
Do any  other country use it?

In hospitals,do you use Fh to  know fever temperature?
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Re: Green Tomatoes in Orange Wheelbarrow
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2002, 04:27:08 pm »

Hey Zev -

You are right, of course--it's all in what you're used to.

I wouldn't say Fh had a "goal", more like an evolution.  It's precursor was the first to tie the scale into two points of physical meaning.  A few (somewhat) logical modifications produced the Fh scale we know today.  Again, it doesn't matter.  There is little advantage to using degC, because very seldom is the use of a temperature scale tied directly to the freezing or boiling points of pure water under standard conditions.

You have all the old buildings, so we cling to old metrics.

Yes, most hospitals still use Fh for body temperature.  Although most medical instruments provide English and SI units, and some institutions are changing over to using SI for their records.  It's interesting that the development of Fh included considerations of normal body temperature.

We live in an amusing technical environment.  I regularly work on customers' engineering drawings that call out dimensions in mm and loads in lb-f.  Go figure.

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