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Dutch Peter

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MC11: making backup of files
« on: May 12, 2005, 05:16:10 am »

I have an external hard disk that i use to make backups of my pc harddisk.
Up till now i have used 3th pary software to synchronize the directories. It enables me to only copy those files that are new are have been changed.

I was wondering if it is possible to use MC11 for this for me.

I have been playing around with the options after defined the harddrive as a handheld, but it does not work nicely.

Anybody doing this already?
What about the speed of 'gathering info' on the external drive? Analyzing my 6000 songs takes 5-6 minutes??

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2005, 05:47:19 am »

As far as I know, MC cannot backup your files, only the library.

You can, of course manually copy & move files from within MC, but I don't think that's what you want.
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 07:12:20 am »

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You can, of course manually copy & move files from within MC, but I don't think that's what you want.

No, thats correct.

I was more thinking about using the handheld/synchronize functionality to do this?? This because it is possible to define the external disk as an handheld.

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2005, 07:43:53 am »

you can backup all your multimedia by MC including music, video, photos...etc and that is possible by making MC recognize the backup destination as a fixed drive (Handheld) from the handheld option menu.. and then you sync the files ;)
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2005, 08:46:51 am »

I stand corrected. :)
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 08:51:14 am »

you can backup all your multimedia by MC including music, video, photos...etc and that is possible by making MC recognize the backup destination as a fixed drive (Handheld) from the handheld option menu.. and then you sync the files ;)

I have tried that, but is was very slow. Gathering information of the external drive each time takes minutes. And another thing is that even I unselect all playlists, it will analyze those. This also takes a lot of time.
I also had some warnings on duplicate files.

Pink Waters: did you do this actually, or do think it should work that way?

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 09:11:53 am »

I also tried to use MC11 to backup my media files to a backup disk using the Handheld synchronisation. My experience was with 13'000 image files (*.jpg):

1) Gathering media data is simply too slow, in my case 10-15 minutes!
2) It creates plenty of duplicates as images very often have identical name tags and differ only in file name. But file name is not recognized. SteveG wrote that originally it was not intended for synchronizing all type of media files and he promised that he will give it a deeper look at a more general attempt. Probably not in MC11!

3) I don't think it is really polished to do that kind of job, but hopefully they will make it in the next release.

4) I use an external tool for synchronizing my media data to an external disk and it only takes a few minutes to synchronize.

5) It would really be useful to be able to synchronize subsets of the media library to my notebook with just one click!

 
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2005, 09:28:54 am »

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1) Gathering media data is simply too slow, in my case 10-15 minutes!
Yes it is very slow, but for a backup maybe acceptable.
I wonder how that works with a real hand held. One would like a fairly quick sync i guess.

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2) It creates plenty of duplicates as images very often have identical name tags and differ only in file name.
This triggers the following question: what tags are used in the sync?
I changed the Genre and ended up with duplicates?
Does it only look at Name and Artist?
I hope not!!  :'(

Additional question: now it seems to make 1 directory where all the files are copied in. Is it possible to create the same structure as on de primairy disk?

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2005, 09:45:12 am »

I changed the Genre and ended up with duplicates?
Does it only look at Name and Artist?
I hope not!!  :'(

Search Interact for Jaguu and SteveG and you will find an exact answer by SteveG

Additional question: now it seems to make 1 directory where all the files are copied in. Is it possible to create the same structure as on de primairy disk?

There are options to define the directory structure on the handheld. I think you have to right-click under "Devices" and the name of the Handheld
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2005, 10:00:14 am »

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Search Interact for Jaguu and SteveG and you will find an exact answer by SteveG
Sorry. The only result is this thread with all options open and 500 days.
Can you help me a little more?

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There are options to define the directory structure on the handheld. I think you have to right-click under "Devices" and the name of the Handheld
No options like that ....  Can you check?
Is it maybe because I am trying on a PDA and not on an external hard drive?

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2005, 10:58:19 am »


No options like that ....  Can you check?
Is it maybe because I am trying on a PDA and not on an external hard drive?

Peter

I have the option under Drives & Devices, I right click the device I am going to sync to and I see Rearrange Upload Folders. That has a menu of various ways to store the files, including Artist/Album

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2005, 11:33:59 am »

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I have the option under Drives & Devices, I right click the device I am going to sync to and I see Rearrange Upload Folders. That has a menu of various ways to store the files, including Artist/Album

Yes! When external drive is connected these options are available.
But, how do I activate this action? Syncing does not re-arrange them?

Jaguu:
I will read the provided thread later in the evening. Thanks in advance.
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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2005, 11:46:25 am »

Another backup question:

I have my main drive as RAID0 array and total 800gb. When backing up, I need to do this to several (at least two) smaller disks).

Any way (external or internal) to automize finding the right device, ie I backup albums starting A-P to one disc and Q-Z to the next one.

Thanks for any advise

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2005, 11:59:45 am »

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But, how do I activate this action? Syncing does not re-arrange them?

It works for newly synced files. It does not re-arrange the files already on the external disk.

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Re: MC11: making backup of files
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2005, 01:14:58 pm »

Personally, if you have a standalone backup utility, I'd use that.
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