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Author Topic: files in MPL playlist are not imported if the files they point are missing  (Read 2772 times)

Tolga

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When importing a MPL file, MC 11 does not import entries that don't have a corresponding filename. I don't believe that this should be the default behavior. For example the MPL file might refer files to removable drivers or to network drivers that may not be accessible at a particular time. (for example if you are using a laptop). Since it is now much more easier to detect and filter the missing files, MC should import missing files in MPL playlists.

I admit that my goal is someone different. I use MPL files to import external databases, because MC is an exceptional program to browse a database. My specific problem is that the entries on the database do not nessarily have a corresponding file, in which case, those entries are not imported. (For those who are interested, I am importing Procite bibliographic references to MC. Sometimes they have a corresponding PDF file on my harddisk, sometimes they don't).



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Alex B

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MPL import should have an option for just adding the entries to the database without checking them. MPL files are used by advanced users and MC could just trust that they know what they are doing. The current way also changes the import dates to the current date even the dates are specified differently in the MPL files. It is also as slow as the standard import because MC unnecessarily checks and analyses the file links.

I have a different MPL problem, reported here: Topic: MC fails to import its own MPL files if they are big, but no one has been interested.
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Matt, Has MPL import changed?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2005, 04:21:46 pm »

I encountered a new MPL problem today. MC was not able to import an MPL file that has CUE entries. I tried to import my tagged cue files to a new library, but it didn't work. It has always worked earlier and it has been the only way to back up and move tagged cue based tracks. I haven't seen any announcement of changes in this.

Here is the import log:
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18:30:05: Import: Process: Starting import (JRiver Media Center 11.0.285 (registered))
18:30:05: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Start
18:30:05: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Include: X:\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond\Ahead.mpl
18:30:05: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Exclude: X:\_tn\{B821F83E-518F-439D-A8EA-F1967B301646}\
18:30:05: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Finish (78 ms)
18:30:05: Import: GetNewFiles: Start
18:30:05: Import: AddFile: Found: X:\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond\Ahead.mpl
18:30:05: Import: GetNewFiles: Finish (0 ms)
18:30:05: Import: ImportNewFiles: Start
18:30:05: Import: ImportNewFiles: Adding: X:\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond\Ahead.mpl
18:30:05: Import: ImportNewFiles:     Failed to analyze / add
18:30:05: Import: ImportNewFiles: Finish (15 ms)
18:30:05: Import: Process: Finish (109 ms)

Here is the MPL file used: ahead_mpl.zip

The filenames & paths in the MPL file are correct and the mp3 files were available.
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Re: Matt, Has MPL import changed?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2005, 11:45:30 am »

I am not sure if I have been understood correctly. This last issue is a real biggie, not something from my wishlist.

I have about 1500 tagged cue tracks in my library and if MPL import doesn't work anymore there is no way to move that information between different PCs and/or libraries. A library backup can be used for the whole library, but it is not a solution for this. I hope this just a small bug that sneaked in when something else was fixed.

As a test I burned the album files (MP3 + CUE) to a CD-RW and imported the CUE files directly from it. After that I exported an MPL playlist and imported it to an empty library. This time MC was happy to import the tracks. Removable media made the difference.

Here is the log from that import:
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19:37:46: Import: Process: Starting import (JRiver Media Center 11.0.285 (registered))
19:37:46: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Start
19:37:46: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Include: E:\MC11_BU\Ahead.mpl
19:37:46: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Exclude: X:\_tn\{C66D65ED-CB7B-4940-A8CC-5C92416C7B40}\
19:37:46: Import: GetSearchFolderList: Finish (62 ms)
19:37:46: Import: GetNewFiles: Start
19:37:46: Import: AddFile: Found: E:\MC11_BU\Ahead.mpl
19:37:46: Import: GetNewFiles: Finish (0 ms)
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles: Start
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles: Adding: E:\MC11_BU\Ahead.mpl
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;1
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;2
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;3
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;4
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;5
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;6
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;7
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;8
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;9
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;10
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;11
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;12
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;13
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;14
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;15
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD1.mp3;16
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;1
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;2
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;3
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;4
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;5
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;6
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;7
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;8
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;9
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;10
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;11
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;12
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;13
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;14
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;15
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles:     New File: (0xCBF19DDF):\Ahead - mixed by Scott Bond - CD2.mp3;16
19:37:46: Import: ImportNewFiles: Finish (31 ms)
19:37:46: Import: Process: Finish (125 ms)
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Should be fixed next build.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Much appreciated. Thanks.

Can we discuss the other issues later? I would really like to have an advanced option for not checking the MPL contents. With that option MC could just blindly merge the information to the library without changing or skipping anything.

It would open many possibilities for importing information from external sources as Tolga explained. It might also solve the problem of too big MPL files.

Though, I think dummy filenames would be needed in Tolga's case if the files are not available. I suppose that a library entry must have something in the filename field. The other fields are optional.
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Tolga

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as Tolga explained.

I support this  ;D
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Tolga

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More seriously,

For those who maybe trying to hack data into MC, I noticed that MC ignores filename check in MPL files if the filename starts with http://

The filenames should be still unique, so you can add arbitrary records to MC by having files names of the format:

http://unique-ID

I am proud to browse procite database within MC now.

My dream is to browse any database, excel, access, outlook mails, etc.. within MC. (direct access, without importing). MC view schemes is the best browsing system I have seen sofars. (although microsoft is very slowing catching the idea -> see search folders in outlook and longhorn) It is almost a waste that MC is used for media files.

Well, as WinFS is closing, I am sure MC12-13 is going more towards being an explorer replacement.
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Should be fixed next build.

Thanks for the heads up.

MPL import for cue entries works again. Thanks.
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