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[JONCAT]

I have found a number of errors that I would like to submit corrections to but since the files have been previously submitted to YADB, MC is not allowing me to submit.

I have submit some of this erroneous information myself, and I 'd like the opportunity to correct the mistakes.

thanks
DC

[KingSparta]

digital finger printing only allows uploading this information once.

this is a flaw in the digital fingerprinting system since it accepts the first up-loaders information as correct.

the way it should work is your system submits data and you can update your own data, and everyone else could submit data also for the same fingerprint. the system should then take like 1000 users info and average it out (more users who match this fingerprint) this would be the default info that would be tagged to the file.

You should also have an option to view other data for that fingerprint just in case there are other media files that come up with the same fingerprint.

[dcwebman]

I wouldn't even mind multiple uploads and then when I rip, give me a list to choose from so I can select the one I think is right and want to use. I agree that not being able to do corrections is a pain and all it's doing is hurting others to benefit from what I know is correct.

[John Gateley]

I'm working on this...

j

[Rob L]

You mean this is a change that's happened on the back end?

I haven't ripped a CD for a few days, but if it's change to only allow the first submission now, that would be a complete nightmare...

[KingSparta]

I haven't ripped a CD for a few days, but if it's change to only allow the first submission now, that would be a complete nightmare...

there is two ways YADB works one is a digital fingerprint, for media files, the other is for cd submits.

fingerprints currently allow one submit only and has been that way since MJ8 like 4 years now.

[Rob L]

Ah, OK, well, that's kind of a relief :-)

I wondered what you were going on about with the fingerprint stuff :-)

I've never even considered trying to do it for anything other than CDs. It just never occurred to me that there'd be any point...

I'm still not actually sure why you'd want to do it for files... unless it's really a lossless thing?

[KingSparta]

I'm still not actually sure why you'd want to do it for files...

lets say

1. you lost all your tags for some reason
2. came across a file with hardly any tags (from a friend maybe)
3. it was tagged just a song name and no artist name, etc...
4. Blaa, blaa, blaa

recently a user decided they did not need tags and deleted them all and only had the file name left. a mistake he will later regret.

[Rob L]

but for the fingerprinting, doesn't it need to REALLY similar, if not pretty much identical?

[KingSparta]

but for the fingerprinting, doesn't it need to REALLY similar, if not pretty much identical?

No

When Cd's Are Looked At, Basically They Go off Of The Size Of Files And The Number.

For CDDB They Create What They Call A TOS Based On The Data Files On The Disk.

FreeDB Uses The CD Like "289F-74CC"

This Came From Doing A DIR in DOS On A Drive

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\dir
 Volume in drive C is DRIVE_C
 Volume Serial Number is 289F-74CC
Digital Fingerprinting Creates An ID Based On The Characteristics Of The Sounds In The Media File It's Self And Sometimes Length Of The Media File.

This is Not Like A Bunch Of Data Like File Length (Size) And the Number Of Files On The Disk Thrown In A Bucket And Then Counted.

Fingerprinting Is A Bit More Discriminative.

[Rob L]

so it can pretty much identify the same track however it's encoded?

[KingSparta]

so it can pretty much identify the same track however it's encoded?

Yes

[Rob L]

ah, ok, thanks for explaining :-)

must be quite a sophisticated algorithm then :-)