Topic: Where The Heck Is Split View?--SOLVED! (Read 4730 times)

jgreen · « **on:** August 23, 2006, 10:59:30 am »

I haven't used split views with 12x and now I can't find them. I've got split views enabled under features, yet there is no sign of them. Are they with the Download Manager?

zxsix · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2006, 11:36:32 am »

View > Split Views > Show 2 Views works for me.

jgreen · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:28:51 pm »

I have no such option showing under the view menu header, where they used to be. All I show there is standard view/mini view/display view. I have split view enabled under "features" (although not theater view).

FWIW, I have no "web media" access menu, either.

LonWar · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:32:23 pm »

Neither did I,

I clicked on View Standard View.

Then View and I saw the rest of the options.

Doesn't look like it goes back to Standard view from Mini propperly

jgreen · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:47:12 pm »

Matt · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:00:52 pm »

By design, menus are simplified when in Mini View. I think this makes sense -- there's 0 views in Mini View, so why show a split view menu? It's the same reason we get rid of Edit and Help.

jgreen · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:08:20 pm »

It's not returning to standard view menu afterwards.

Alex B · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:40:33 pm »

I cannot reproduce the problem. I tried switching between the Standard View (Noire skin) and several different Mini skins & Display View. (12.0.59)

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:43:49 pm »

I can't reproduce it either. Any tips?

jgreen · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2006, 04:42:01 pm »

I'm starting to think that it was the fault of Zone Alarm firewall. If Gamer's using it that would clinch it for me. I looked in the firewall settings and ZA was inspecting interactions between MC and "other programs" (or processes), possibly slowing down or freezing things. Since I set ZA to give MC carte blanche program interaction I have not seen the problem.

Matt · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2006, 04:51:29 pm »

We hear too many strange things like this. It could be the same reason you were seeing that "deep sleep" you described.

The cure is often worse than the disease.

jgreen · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2006, 05:32:23 pm »

Okay, let's say that it is the "fault" of Zone Alarm and/or similar. There's an awful lot of that stuff out there--does that mean that all of us just have to be patient? Selecting "audio" from a rest state showing the "no internet" page took the same amount of time as loading the program fresh--about 25 seconds.

Matt · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2006, 06:16:34 pm »

Quote from: jgreen on August 23, 2006, 05:32:23 pm

Okay, let's say that it is the "fault" of Zone Alarm and/or similar. There's an awful lot of that stuff out there--does that mean that all of us just have to be patient?

Sorry if I sounded crotchety. Programs that use system-wide hooks have caused us (and our users) a lot of grief in the past.

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Selecting "audio" from a rest state showing the "no internet" page took the same amount of time as loading the program fresh--about 25 seconds.

I think something is wrong either with your system, your library, or with MC.

As a comparison, starting MC or switching library views takes less than half a second with the machine I'm on now.

Try disabling extra stuff. (both in MC and outside) Posting a log of the startup might help us.

Thanks.

Doof · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2006, 06:35:27 pm »

FWIW, I could never reproduce this either. Or the slowdown thing.

datdude · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2006, 06:54:15 pm »

this happens to me from time to time as well. I am using Trend Micro PC-Cillin anti-virus.

LonWar · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:12:37 pm »

Quote from: jgreen on August 23, 2006, 05:32:23 pm

Okay, let's say that it is the "fault" of Zone Alarm and/or similar. There's an awful lot of that stuff out there--does that mean that all of us just have to be patient? Selecting "audio" from a rest state showing the "no internet" page took the same amount of time as loading the program fresh--about 25 seconds.

Nope ZA is NOT the culprit.

2 Different computers. Neither have ZA and I can re produce at will

Mega View - Mini View - Use the Return To Mega View (Right Click) then use the View drop down....
I only have 3 options untill I again choose View Standard View.

Let me know if I can give you any other info

Doof · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:12:03 pm »

Nope, still can't reproduce it here, even following those steps.

What mini-skin are you using? There is no right click menu when you're using Slim, so I switched to a couple of the other mini-skins. I found the right click menu and the Return To Standard View menu item, but even then my View menu is complete when I return to Standard View.

jgreen · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:57:22 pm »

Doof--
We're talking about the bog-standard mini that comes with the program, straight outta the jriver factory.

Matt--

Pullease! You (and the rest of you guys) are writing the best media manager/playback program on the planet. I just want you to know that, in the words of the reverend Desmond Tutu, it is "highly imperfect". IMO, you've gone a bridge too far with the shut down/sleep thing.

modelmaker · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:16:34 am »

For what it's worth, I can't reproduce this either. This part works perfectly for me. OTOH I've got some other issues I'd like to talk about.....

Listening to: 'I Don't Want to Discuss It' from 'On Tour With Eric Clapton' by 'Delaney & Bonnie & Friends' on Media Center 12

Media Center Registered 12.0.58 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\

Microsoft Windows 2000 Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 4 (Build 2195)
AMD Athlon 1653 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 298 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81.4916 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.0.2800 / Shell32.dll: 5.0.3900 / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping / Drive Y: Mode:Normal Type:Auto Speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: Yes / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive Y: LITE-ON LTR-32123S Addr: 2:0:0 Speed:32 MaxSpeed:32 BurnProof:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No /

LonWar · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:57:45 am »

Last night I did it at will...

Today it's on and off... Go figure.

JimH · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:09:44 am »

Quote from: imjustagamer on August 23, 2006, 08:12:37 pm

Nope ZA is NOT the culprit.

2 Different computers. Neither have ZA and I can re produce at will

What do the two have in common? Equipment or software. Third party software?

LonWar · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:23:45 am »

My Work CPU has Playing Now - My 2nd home computer is stock.
Both running 12.059

Get this.... If I close MC, Open MC it opens in Mega. If I click View, I only have 3 items.
If from there I click Standard, I can click from Mega to Mini usually without problems.

But if I close then open, there are only 3 items.

Work is a P3 2.8 ish
Home, AMD 3400+

LonWar · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:53:07 am »

This is not only on 59... My other cpu is also a 3400+ and running .56

Soon as I start it, goto view, I have to click standard view before I see the goodies.

Matt · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2006, 11:05:20 am »

Found it. Using start in "Last Exit" mode causes the strangeness.

The deep sleep jgreen is seeing is still a mystery, but perhaps another thread would be best for that.

jgreen · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:06:43 pm »

Yeah, I use "Last Exit" view. Thanks for tracking it down, Matt. I'll try to get more details about slow recovery issues and start a new thread.

LonWar · « **Reply #25 on:** August 25, 2006, 04:17:11 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 24, 2006, 11:05:20 am

Found it. Using start in "Last Exit" mode causes the strangeness.

The deep sleep jgreen is seeing is still a mystery, but perhaps another thread would be best for that.

You guy's are my hero's...

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