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[KeystoneCop]

My problem is NOT with BETA testing, my prolem is the functionality. splitting large mp3 files and tagging.  I cannot find any reference to either being  changed within my trail period.

[JimH]

If you're talking about using Media Editor to split a file, I don't think anything has changed in Media Editor that could affect that.

[Alex B]

KeystoneCop,

You should actively take part in the discussions and reporting if you like to make the developers aware of your needs.

For tagging feature requests and discussion you could use this thread: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=36072.0

The "splitting large mp3 files" issue is new also to me. Actually, I have no idea of what you mean. Please, explain.


Edit: I noticed that you have already posted in that tagging thread.

[KeystoneCop]

I am sorry, that my terminology is what it is.  I was under the impression that there was something new in version 12 what would take (for example) a 30 minute mp3 and with a simple command turn it into 6 5 minute mp3's.  The reason being the mp3 player i have will not pause for several days, and has no fast forward. when listening to some audio books.

I still love MEDIA CENTER 11....  don't take me wrong.. I was just excpecting more from this version.  in the OLD DAYS (not good old days)  Beta had all the functions and was ready for a full road test.  ALPHA is were things were being built and added too.


Thanks for your time.........

[Alex B]

I am sorry, that my terminology is what it is. I was under the impression that there was something new in version 12 what would take (for example) a 30 minute mp3 and with a simple command turn it into 6 5 minute mp3's. The reason being the mp3 player i have will not pause for several days, and has no fast forward. when listening to some audio books.

Hmm... you could do that with a cue file. It would not be automatic, but not too complex either. I can post instructions if you are interested.

[KeystoneCop]

I am just looking for a way of splitting them. (without having more software to buy) Thanks.........maybe it should go into a differnt tread.

[JimH]

A 30 minute file would take some time to convert to WAV and that's what Media Editor does first.

You could also convert to WAV in MC first, then edit.

[Alex B]

I am just looking for a way of splitting them. (without having more software to buy) Thanks.........maybe it should go into a differnt tread.

No other programs are needed. A cue file is a list of track change points with some track information. It is a plain text file.

MC can understand a properly formatted cue file and play separate tracks from a single audio source file. Also the converter works (though without file tagging).

[Alex B]

Here is an example of a cue file. If it is used with a 30 minute audio source file it would appear as six five minute tracks in MC. The filename must have a .cue extension and the source mp3 file must be in the same folder. You can just drag a cue file to Playing Now. MC12 seems to have a problem with displaying a correct duration for the last track, but it should work despite that.

Code: [Select]

PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
TITLE "My audio book"
FILE "Book.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 1"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 2"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 05:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 3"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 10:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 4"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 15:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 5"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 20:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 6"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 25:00:00
                                               (this last line must be empty, but it is needed)

[Alex B]

The time code after the "INDEX 01" string is as follows

05:09:65

five minutes, nine seconds, 65 frames

- one frame is 1/75 second, the frame value can be from 00 to 74.
- the maximum value is 99:59:74  (almost 100 minutes)

[KeystoneCop]

sorry i am confused again

PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
TITLE "My audio book"
FILE "Finder - Killer Instinct - 74 of 74.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 1"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 2"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 01:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 3"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 02:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 4"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 03:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 5"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 04:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Part 6"
    PERFORMER "Bookmaker"
    INDEX 01 05:00:00
                                 

when i did this I got 6 items in playing now.. that were all the same.

the file names were all the same as well.

sorry

[Alex B]

I works for me. Only the last track has wrong duration in MC's duration field. (You can also try MC11.1. It does not have this problem.)

Did you make one empty line in the end of the cue file (e.g. by pressing enter after the last text line)?
Does MC display the Part 1, Part 2, etc names in the Name column?
Did you try to play the files?
The filenames that are displayed in MC should have ;1 , ;2 , ;3 etc strings after the standard mp3 extension.

If you can make these virtual tracks appear correctly you can convert them to separate track files.

[Alex B]

Here is another example of a cue file:

Code: [Select]

PERFORMER "Armin Van Buuren"
TITLE "ASOT Year Mix 2005 - CD2"
FILE "Armin Van Buuren - ASOT Year Mix 2005 - CD2.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Close Horizon"
    PERFORMER "Thomas Bronszwaer"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Stargazing"
    PERFORMER "Selu Vibra"
    INDEX 01 01:52:56
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Serenity"
    PERFORMER "Armin Van Buuren ft. Jan Vayne"
    INDEX 01 02:48:53
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Damager 02 (Mac Zimms Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Scottm Mac"
    INDEX 01 05:10:32
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Dark Side Of The Moon"
    PERFORMER "Ernesto vs. Bastian"
    INDEX 01 06:20:30
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Mute Your Mind"
    PERFORMER "Frost & Maron"
    INDEX 01 07:16:28
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Summerdream (Paul Van Dyk Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Kuffdam & Plant"
    INDEX 01 08:05:28
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Castamara"
    PERFORMER "Jonas Steur"
    INDEX 01 09:42:31
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Tribal Affair"
    PERFORMER "Apogee"
    INDEX 01 11:35:00
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Alone Tonight"
    PERFORMER "Above & Beyoond"
    INDEX 01 12:40:62
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "Timeless (Deepwide Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Will Holland"
    INDEX 01 15:47:70
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Shivers (Alex M.O.R.P.H.'s Red Light Dub)"
    PERFORMER "Armin Van Buuren"
    INDEX 01 16:29:38
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    TITLE "Advanced"
    PERFORMER "Marcel Woods"
    INDEX 01 18:06:40
  TRACK 14 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Chamber"
    PERFORMER "Inertia"
    INDEX 01 19:29:51
  TRACK 15 AUDIO
    TITLE "Play It Loud"
    PERFORMER "Randy Katana"
    INDEX 01 20:52:63
  TRACK 16 AUDIO
    TITLE "Playemo (1st Play Mix)"
    PERFORMER "Bart Claessen"
    INDEX 01 21:34:31
  TRACK 17 AUDIO
    TITLE "Adrenaline"
    PERFORMER "Purple Haze"
    INDEX 01 23:25:22
  TRACK 18 AUDIO
    TITLE "Remember Me (Terry Bones Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Interstate"
    INDEX 01 25:16:13
  TRACK 19 AUDIO
    TITLE "Puma"
    PERFORMER "Sunny Lax"
    INDEX 01 27:34:57
  TRACK 20 AUDIO
    TITLE "A New Beginning (Astuni & Le Saux Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Baltes & Dyloot presents Deep Voices"
    INDEX 01 29:53:27
  TRACK 21 AUDIO
    TITLE "Touch Down"
    PERFORMER "Mark Norman"
    INDEX 01 32:39:51
  TRACK 22 AUDIO
    TITLE "Lyteo (Rank 1 Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Mr. Sam"
    INDEX 01 34:23:46
  TRACK 23 AUDIO
    TITLE "Behind Silence"
    PERFORMER "Yahel ft. A Force"
    INDEX 01 36:21:32
  TRACK 24 AUDIO
    TITLE "Mistaken"
    PERFORMER "B&W"
    INDEX 01 37:44:44
  TRACK 25 AUDIO
    TITLE "Confirmation"
    PERFORMER "Fred Baker vs. Nyram"
    INDEX 01 38:40:01
  TRACK 26 AUDIO
    TITLE "I Cant Stop (Dynamic Sense Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Jan Loper"
    INDEX 01 40:58:46
  TRACK 27 AUDIO
    TITLE "Fire (Ron Van Den Beuken Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Ferry Corsten ft. Simon Le Bon"
    INDEX 01 42:49:37
  TRACK 28 AUDIO
    TITLE "Sunset"
    PERFORMER "Ron Van Den Beuken"
    INDEX 01 43:34:40
  TRACK 29 AUDIO
    TITLE "Only With You"
    PERFORMER "Goldenscan"
    INDEX 01 44:50:57
  TRACK 30 AUDIO
    TITLE "Mahananda"
    PERFORMER "Duderstadt"
    INDEX 01 45:46:15
  TRACK 31 AUDIO
    TITLE "First State"
    PERFORMER "First State"
    INDEX 01 47:02:32
  TRACK 32 AUDIO
    TITLE "Amsterdam (Smith & Pledger Remix)"
    PERFORMER "Luminary"
    INDEX 01 48:46:27
  TRACK 33 AUDIO
    TITLE "Heart Of Sun"
    PERFORMER "Kamil Polner"
    INDEX 01 50:09:38
  TRACK 34 AUDIO
    TITLE "Language (Santiago Nino Dub Tech Mix)"
    PERFORMER "Hammer & Bennett"
    INDEX 01 53:51:21
  TRACK 35 AUDIO
    TITLE "More Than A Life Away"
    PERFORMER "Marco V"
    INDEX 01 55:41:74
  TRACK 36 AUDIO
    TITLE "Topgear"
    PERFORMER "Rank 1"
    INDEX 01 56:09:65
  TRACK 37 AUDIO
    TITLE "Netherworld (Oliver Prime Remix)"
    PERFORMER "L.S.G."
    INDEX 01 57:50:25
  TRACK 38 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Trick To Life"
    PERFORMER "Outro"
    INDEX 01 61:04:02



[KeystoneCop]

THANK YOU

it now works for me. problem with my file names

had  Finder - Killer Instinct - 74 of 74.mp3

changed to finder.mp3 then it worked.


How do I save them, or using your word convert? them..  

this is looking good so far NOT

I SAID SEND TO MY MP3 PLAYER..  SAID IT TRANSFERED, BUT NO FILES ON THE PLAYER.......  I WILL PLAY WITH THIS SOME MORE

[Alex B]

Just use MC's converter as usual.

Select the files > right-click > Library Tools > Convert...
Set the conversion options and the destination folder.

Keep the original mp3 file in your archive. The conversion process is not lossless. Re-encoding will decrade audio quality a bit.

You can to save these virtual tracks inside MC by adding them to a new playlist. (The "right-click > Import" function does not work with cue files because of a bug.)

EDIT (an answer to your edit)

You cannot send these virtual tracks directly to an mp3 player. You need to make the separate real mp3 track files with MC's converter. After that you can to import the new mp3 files to MC, tag them if needed and send to your player.

[dcwebman]

You said you didn't want to buy a program but if you want a freeware one that makes it easy to split MP3 files, check out mp3DirectCut: http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html

[Alex B]

Mp3DirectCut is an excellent program, but it may also be a bit difficult to understand and use.

Its advantage in this case would be lossless cutting. It splits MP3 files without decompression and re-encoding.

In case the lossy re-encoding causes audible problems mp3DirectCut or a similar utility should be used instead of the cue method or MC's Media Editor.

[KeystoneCop]

You said you didn't want to buy a program but if you want a freeware one that makes it easy to split MP3 files, check out mp3DirectCut: http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html

Mp3DirectCut is an excellent program, but it may also be a bit difficult to understand and use.

Its advantage in this case would be lossless cutting. It splits MP3 files without decompression and re-encoding.

In case the lossy re-encoding causes audible problems mp3DirectCut or a similar utility should be used instead of the cue method or MC's Media Editor.

Thanks, I got mp3DirectCut to work.. open a mp3,  go to special auto cue, set the time, then save split.  was easier and faster for me than the steps needed with media center.


 mp3DirectCut puts  information in the tags.


Alex B....  I do appreciate your help.. the samples of the cue, helped me see how this works.

I am sure there could be a nice clean way of doing this SOMEDAY.