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AustinBike

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Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« on: January 20, 2007, 10:26:52 pm »

There was an earlier thread that I started about MC committing changes to the files when you edit tags.

Try this:

Find an album with a blank year tag.

Fill in the year.

Switch to another album then come back. The new year is there.

Close the program, open it back up.  The year is still there.

Now go look at the tags.  No year.

Now, change a name.  Committed instantly.  Why only some tags?  This is quite annoying. 
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 10:54:39 pm »

Check real quick under Tools -> Options -> Library and Folders to see if the that field is set to be stored in the file tags by MC.

Does MC indicate in the bottom display area that it saved it in the tags?
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 11:03:35 pm »

Also, what file format, and which decoder (input) plugin?
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 11:14:17 pm »

Nope, year is not listed as a standard field ("year - album" is however).

Year is a pretty standard tag, as common as title, yet it is not in the list of standard tags.

As for the encoder, I am using LAME and the files are MP3, but none of that should matter, the key is the MC does not appear to have year as a standard field - that is why it is not committing the change.

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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2007, 08:28:25 am »

You can freely customize your tagging to include or exclude any of the fields in the file tags.
Personally I prefer to store only the basic tags in the files and the additional info in the library database only.
Others may choose to do it differently, which is part of what makes MC so GREAT   ;)
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2007, 10:17:50 am »

Where exactly does one do this?  When I look at the tag menu to see what is standard I don't see a choice to add anything.
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2007, 11:03:16 am »

Nope, year is not listed as a standard field ("year - album" is however).

Year is a pretty standard tag, as common as title, yet it is not in the list of standard tags.

As for the encoder, I am using LAME and the files are MP3, but none of that should matter, the key is the MC does not appear to have year as a standard field - that is why it is not committing the change.

MC uses DATE as the preferred tag.  YEAR (Year - Album) is older and not preferred.

It's important which plugin you use because the plugin is what actually writes the tag.  Based on my experience with the flac plugins, MC could be telling the plugins to write the YEAR tag and they might be ignoring it in favor of DATE.  Since the mp3 plugins are JRiver own, I don't know if that's true or not but it is possible.
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2007, 12:16:25 pm »

Now, change a name.  Committed instantly.  Why only some tags?  This is quite annoying. 
Its troubling, going by the description you gave, it should not matter whether a tag is stored in the files or not. You are looking at what MC has in its library. Those values should not change on their own.

Some more testing is required here, try and see whether you can identify more tags where this happens.
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2007, 12:24:01 pm »

I understood it that the library is fine, but the tag is not written to the file.
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Re: Nope, it doesn't always commit changes
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2007, 01:06:13 pm »

The tag is stored in the library - it's still there now.  The problem is that I have multiple applications that access my mp3's, so I need the information stored in the mp3 tag, not the library.

I would have thought that "year" would be a standard tag, but apparently it isn't
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