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[rar4010]

I'm trying to stream to my Yamaha receiver and get the following error in the log of the media server.

Does anyone know of a solution?

05/07/07 22:01:17 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.37 starting...
05/07/07 22:01:18 - UPnP Media Server Device started on port 4177
05/07/07 22:01:19 - Running
05/07/07 22:01:28 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:28 - Received request for device description
05/07/07 22:01:28 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:28 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:38 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:38 - Received request for device description
05/07/07 22:01:38 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:38 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
05/07/07 22:01:42 - Server Stopped

Thanks in advance

[JimH]

You might have better luck with MC12.  There have been a number of changes.  The trial is free.

[rar4010]

Back on this project...I have downloaded the latest build 12.0.251 and get the same result.

I noticed the uPNP server is a later version.
Do I need to open a port on the router...I assumed not since it is internal on my network?
If I launch Windows Media Connect, it connects fine...what is the difference in uPNP implementation?
Here is the log....any thoughts?
06/08/07 07:30:17 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.46 starting...
06/08/07 07:30:18 - UPnP Media Server Device started on port 2869
06/08/07 07:30:18 - Running
06/08/07 07:30:21 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:21 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 07:30:21 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 07:30:21 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:21 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:31 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:31 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 07:30:31 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 07:30:31 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:31 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:41 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:41 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 07:30:41 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 07:30:41 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:41 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
06/08/07 07:30:44 - Server Stopped

[John Gateley]

"Cannot autodetect" just means the server does not know what settings to use for your player.

Can you play music? What exactly is going wrong?

j

[rar4010]

When I go to the uPNP menu on the receiver, it just shows 0 / 0 devices available. It's as if the receiver doesn't see MC. Net radio feature works fine on receiver, so I think it's on the network OK.

[John Gateley]

It's getting the device description, so it is seeing the server, but it doesn't like it for some reason.

Try playing with the options, especially any pertaining to URLs.

j

[rar4010]

John,

I tried various combinations of the options in Advanced and always got the same result, but different from Automatic Detection.

06/08/07 17:19:10 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.46 starting...
06/08/07 17:19:11 - UPnP Media Server Device started on port 2869
06/08/07 17:19:11 - Running
06/08/07 17:19:20 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 17:19:20 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 17:19:30 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 17:19:30 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 17:19:40 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
06/08/07 17:19:40 - Received request for device description
06/08/07 17:19:43 - Server Stopped

I noticed that there are some device-specific profiles out there...any chance of getting one defined for the Yahama?
Is there any type of trace or more detailed log file that would help troubleshoot?

Thanks

[John Gateley]

I'll define one for the Yamaha, sure, but I have to know what it is first

The next step is to do a network sniff and e-mail that to me. It's best if you have a server that it works with so I can look at them both, figure out what it isn't liking about ours.

http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/Sharing_Plug-in_Debugging_Hints

Thanks,

j

[rar4010]

John,

I fired up Wireshark and did a trace of MC interacting with the Yamaha, but it turned out to be 9MB. As I look through the packets there are a ton of them between my NAS (where all my song files are stored) and my host PC (running MC).

I also tried to fire up Windows Media Connect to get a successful trace because I SWEAR that it worked when I first got my Yamaha last summer. Turns out now that the Yamaha will connect to WMC and display the server name, but when I try to browse to Artisis or Songs, I get 0 / 0 listed. I also tried the sharing in WMP 11, which I think is the same as WMC and got the same result.

I implemented the NAS soon after I got the Yamaha last summer (lightning strike fried old receiver and I got concerned over backups), so it occurs to me that it might have been working only when the music was still served off the C: drive...? Any of this make any sense?

Given all that background, if you think the one trace I got will be of any help, let me know where to email it (your address is hidden in your profile). I suppose I could move a small folder back to C: and create a local library to test if it were possible that serving the files from the NAS is an issue?...let me know how to proceed.

Andy Rogers

[JimH]

I suppose I could move a small folder back to C: and create a local library to test if it were possible that serving the files from the NAS is an issue?...let me know how to proceed.

That would produce a better log.

[John Gateley]

A small library is much better for me. Send it to gateley @ jriver.com

Try the small local library on WMC too, see if that helps.

j

[rar4010]

John,

Just bumpimg this to see if the trace I sent was helpful?

[John Gateley]

Hi Andy - I either never received it or accidentally deleted it, could you resend?

j

[rar4010]

John,

I've lost track of this thread. I called myself sending a wireshark trace twice, but didn't ever get any response. I can send again if necessary. I'm getting this in the log file....
09/07/07 15:20:38 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.47 starting...
09/07/07 15:20:39 - UPnP Media Server Device started on port 4441
09/07/07 15:20:39 - Running
09/07/07 15:20:45 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:20:45 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
09/07/07 15:20:46 - Received request for device description
09/07/07 15:20:46 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:20:46 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:20:55 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:20:55 - GET request of /DeviceDescription.xml
09/07/07 15:20:55 - Received request for device description
09/07/07 15:20:55 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:20:55 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver
09/07/07 15:21:05 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: YAMAHA Network Receiver

The Yamaha can see Windows Media Connect, but I don't have my library defined to WMC.

Any ideas, or do I need to send the Wireshark files again?

Thanks....

[John Gateley]

Could you send again please? With "RX-N600" in the subject somewhere so I don't lose it...

Thanks...

j

[rar4010]

John,

Based on your email, the Denon is doing DLNA, not uPnP. I noticed an entry in build 243 about adding experimental fix for DLNA support. Did that go away...I'm on 12.0.279?

Please advise when a perm fix might be available.

Thanx

[John Gateley]

It was an experimental quick fix, and didn't work, sorry...

j