Topic: Video Playback from Network Drive in MC12 (Read 18824 times)

bbrip · « **Reply #50 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:20:31 am »

I renamed file to AVI. It starts playback, but in sort of "slow motion" mode with funny sound (also low and slow.....)

I renamed to MKV. Nothing really happens, no play back no errors

bbrip

bbrip · « **Reply #51 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:23:38 am »

Noticed something else: The Haali Icon in the system try, which normally disappears once I close playback and the media player, still sits in the system tray and does NOT disappear once I close MC12.

Could this have anything to do with the problem?

Alex B · « **Reply #52 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:54:20 am »

The test results seem fine to me. The used codecs are correct and the media information looks normal. I'd guess that if a player program uses the same filter chain the file should play without problems. The question is why that does not work with MC12.

Since some other players like Zoomplayer may have built-in preferences for the filter selection it would be good to try a very simple player - for example, the old Windows Media Player 6.4. It is about the most basic DirectShow player. On XP you can open it from Start menu > Run > Open: mplayer2 (write this name in the dialog box).

Maybe it would be good to try MC11.1 also. If you don't have it installed you can install it besides MC12 without problems. The programs use separate file locations and registry settings. ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/old/MC111201.exe

If WMP 6.4 and MC11.1 work normally then we can be fairly sure that the problem is related to MC12 and your specific setup.

The Haali icon thing may just be a "ghost", something to do with the screen refreshing. On my PC these ghosts go away when I hover over them. Since the icon appeared it seems like MC tried to use the Haali splitter, but after that it couldn't go further and MC tried to play the file through QuickTime (which is the intended fallback system)

On my PC the renamed fake .avi and .mkv files play without problems, exactly like the .mp4 file. MC sends them to DirectShow and the DS filters take care about selecting the correct decoders.

Have you tried any real .avi or .mkv files? If yes, do they play through DirectShow correctly? Also, do you have another PC that you could try with the same MP4 file(s)?

JimH · « **Reply #53 on:** August 30, 2007, 06:32:55 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 02:12:05 am

Codec: avc1 (Family: )
Dimensions: 720x304, AR: 2.35

That's a codec I don't know. I used google to find something about "Quicktime trailers" and then a link to this:
http://mytechieself.blogspot.com/2005/12/howto-avi-file-and-avc1.html

Google might find other helpful information on it.

bbrip · « **Reply #54 on:** August 30, 2007, 06:46:23 am »

Jim, thats the Nero AVC codec. It plays perfectly fine in Zoomplayer

JimH · « **Reply #55 on:** August 30, 2007, 06:49:17 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 06:46:23 am

Jim, thats the Nero AVC codec. It plays perfectly fine in Zoomplayer.

Right. Zoomplayer may have a DirectShow filter it's using.

The fact that QT gets used suggests that MC can't find a DirectShow filter to use.

Please do some research. We've spent a lot of time on this and it now looks like it's just a question of finding a DirectShow filter that works.

bbrip · « **Reply #56 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:37:05 am »

To be honest, I find it slightly odd that you guys let MC12 default to such a challenged player like QuickTime in the first place. Why not default to Directshow and only use Quicktime if user expressly wishes to use that funny player

bbrip

glynor · « **Reply #57 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:03:24 am »

Nero's AVC codec should be able to be decoded by FFDSHOW. However, perhaps it is using some weirdo codec settings that libavcodec is choking on...

Try these files, if you can...

MP4: http://users.adelphia.net/~edandjenn/mc/minitest-x264_aac-mp4.zip
MKV: http://users.adelphia.net/~edandjenn/mc/minitest-x264_aac_mkv.zip

Warning: The sound might not be work appropriate (it's South Park) so mute your speakers if you're at work or have small kids around.

And, for the record:

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Media Information of: C:\video\projects\south_park_minitest.mp4

General:
Filename: south_park_minitest.mp4
Filesize: 944 KiB
Format: MPEG-4
PlayTime: 00:00:07.103
1 video stream(s), 1 audio stream(s), 0 subtitle stream(s).

Video Stream 0:
Length: 00:00:07.007
Frames: 168, 23.976 fps, 978 Kbps 
Codec: avc1 (Family: )
Dimensions: 720x480, AR: 16/9

Audio Stream 0:
Codec: AAC LC, A_AAC/MPEG4/LC, AAC Low Complexity
Bitrate: 119 Kbps
Bitrate Mode: CBR
Sampling Rate: 48 KHz
Channel(s): 2 channel
Resolution: 16 bits per sample

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Media Information of: C:\video\projects\south_park_minitest.mkv

General:
Filename: south_park_minitest.mkv
Filesize: 945 KiB
Format: Matroska
PlayTime: 00:00:07.104
Title: Done with AutoMKV 0.89 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=854221 
Application: mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Application: libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
1 video stream(s), 1 audio stream(s), 0 subtitle stream(s).

Video Stream 0:
Titles: south_park_minitest
Length: 00:00:07.083
Frames: 170, 23.976 fps,  
Codec: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (Family: )
Dimensions: 720x544, AR: 4/3

Audio Stream 0:
Codec: A_AAC, A_AAC, 
Sampling Rate: 48 KHz
Channel(s): 2 channel

glynor · « **Reply #58 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:04:52 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 07:37:05 am

To be honest, I find it slightly odd that you guys let MC12 default to such a player like QuickTime in the first place. Why not default to Directshow and only use Quicktime if user expressly wishes to use that funny player

Because they want it to work and compete with iTunes out of the box. Many more people have iTunes/Quicktime than have CCCP.

Quicktime actually isn't that terrible. The windows implementation just has some issues when being used as a playback engine.

bbrip · « **Reply #59 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:05:54 am »

Glynor, ffdshow IS ABLE TO DECODE Nero AVC files. Because Zoomplayer uses the ffdshow filters (I see the icons in the tray) ALL THE TIME when I play them back with Zoomplayer!! (I tought we discussed this somewhere before on this thread, but we may got lost for all the different cheese flavours

bbrip · « **Reply #60 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:08:00 am »

Quote from: glynor on August 30, 2007, 08:04:52 am

Because they want it to work and compete with iTunes out of the box. Many more people have iTunes/Quicktime than have CCCP.

I appreciate that. But if they offer CCCP as a package with the MC12 installation, the user has all he needs nad has an alltogether better product than iTunes!!

glynor · « **Reply #61 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:11:52 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 08:05:54 am

Glynor, ffdshow IS ABLE TO DECODE Nero AVC files. Because Zoomplayer uses the ffdshow filters (I see the icons in the tray) ALL THE TIME when I play them back with Zoomplayer!! (I tought we discussed this somewhere before on this thread, but we may got lost for all the different cheese flavours

I do understand that. I'll say it again... Zoomplayer may use FFDSHOW as it's transform filter, but it has many other built-in filters that could be assisting in the decode. You can have much more than 1 filter in the chain. Comparing how FFDSHOW works in ZoomPlayer does not compare to how it works in Windows Media Player or MC.

BTW... One thing I don't remember from earlier... Does it work in Windows Media Player (the regular, Windows version)?

Alex B · « **Reply #62 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:18:36 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 08:05:54 am

Glynor, ffdshow IS ABLE TO DECODE Nero AVC files. Because Zoomplayer uses the ffdshow filters (I see the icons in the tray) ALL THE TIME when I play them back with Zoomplayer!! (I tought we discussed this somewhere before on this thread, but we may got lost for all the different cheese flavours

As said, Zoomplayer may override some default filter selections. Could you please try glynor's sample files (I have not tried them yet) and also the alternative players as I instructed. Thanks.

(... and like Jim said, we are possibly very close to solving the problem. Finding out what caused it would probably be useful for others too.)

glynor · « **Reply #63 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:24:08 am »

I'm skeptical that my samples will be any different, but since I know how they were encoded, it's worth a shot.

Another thing that would be useful... If there is any way you can make a similar encode (some little tiny clip), and post it so we can download and test the clip, it might help!

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 08:18:36 am

(... and like Jim said, we are possibly very close to solving the problem. Finding out what caused it would probably be useful for others too.)

Absolutely, and thanks for all your help and work on this!

bbrip · « **Reply #64 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:27:20 am »

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 08:18:36 am

As said, Zoomplayer may override some default filter selections. Could you please try glynor's sample files (I have not tried them yet) and also the alternative players as I instructed. Thanks.

I ve just tried the south_park_minitest.mp4 file from glynor. Upon dragging it from windows explorer into MC12 Playing Now, it gives the same dialog asking for the Quicktime player.....

BBrip

glynor · « **Reply #65 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:49:01 am »

Okay... Then it isn't the media. $:-\$

(But, does the MKV version happen to work?)

Alex B · « **Reply #66 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:52:44 am »

The mkv link seems to be dead... (The mp4 file worked for me.)

Yaobing · « **Reply #67 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:56:16 am »

Please run regedit.exe and open this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback

and then take a look at the values of "Extensions Played in DShow", and "Extensions Not Played in DShow".

glynor · « **Reply #68 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:56:35 am »

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 08:52:44 am

The mkv link seems to be dead... (The mp4 file worked for me.)

Oops.... My bad. It's working now.

Quote from: Yaobing on August 30, 2007, 08:56:16 am

Please run regedit.exe and open this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback

and then take a look at the values of "Extensions Played in DShow", and "Extensions Not Played in DShow".

Good idea. I was going to ask for a screenshot, but perhaps somehow if the options getting set in the Options dialog aren't "sticking" somehow...

lepa · « **Reply #69 on:** August 30, 2007, 09:26:29 am »

I'm pretty sure that zoomplayer doesn't do anything exotic when playing avc inside mp4. You can double click ffdshow
video icon in the tray while playing video with zoompayer. In [info & cpu] part you can see what it is used to decode video.

This image was taken when zoomplayer was playing the matroska avc file

It is possible to use ffdshow in chain with other filters (for example dvd-mpeg2) but I don't think that is the case here.

glynor · « **Reply #70 on:** August 30, 2007, 09:38:53 am »

Quote from: lepa on August 30, 2007, 09:26:29 am

I'm pretty sure that zoomplayer doesn't do anything exotic when playing avc inside mp4.

I don't know that it does, but it certainly could, which was my point. The issue could be audio decoding as well. We aren't sure why his system isn't working, but for now we think we've ruled out filters (since my test encodes didn't work).

All filters are used in a chain. FFDSHOW is a Transform filter, and it's input pins can connect to either a source filter (such as Haali) or to another Transform filter. ZoomPlayer does have some of it's own built-in Transform filters that it applies to certain media types and then feeds that output to FFDSHOW (I don't know that it does for most "normal" MPEG-4 AVC media, but I wasn't sure that's what we were dealing with). So does MPC. For example, MPC will handle FLV video differently than Windows Media Player does, even though both use FFDSHOW to decode it. That's because MPC runs the video through it's own internal FLV decoder first and then feeds that output to the input pin of FFDSHOW. FFDSHOW's dialog wouldn't show anything unusual if you looked at it while playing back in MPC though, because it only knows about it's own part of the chain (not what happened before or after it's done with the data).

I don't know ZoomPlayer well enough to say "with this particular piece of media, you are comparing apples-to-apples when comparing it to MC's playback". Now, it could certainly be that MC is broken in some way... But, it works for me and Alex and most other people just fine, so something is definitely odd here!

bbrip · « **Reply #71 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:02:41 am »

Quote from: Yaobing on August 30, 2007, 08:56:16 am

Please run regedit.exe and open this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback

and then take a look at the values of "Extensions Played in DShow", and "Extensions Not Played in DShow".

"Extensions Played in DSHOW" does contain mp4 - so seems fine from that perspective.

bbrip · « **Reply #72 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:04:10 am »

Quote from: lepa on August 30, 2007, 09:26:29 am

I'm pretty sure that zoomplayer doesn't do anything exotic when playing avc inside mp4. You can double click ffdshow
video icon in the tray while playing video with zoompayer. In [info & cpu] part you can see what it is used to decode video.

This image was taken when zoomplayer was playing the matroska avc file

It is possible to use ffdshow in chain with other filters (for example dvd-mpeg2) but I don't think that is the case here.

Yes, I do see the same thing in my Zoomplayer / ffdshow dialog

glynor · « **Reply #73 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:45:54 am »

Wow... I'm really baffled. Any way you could run this script and post the resulting TXT File? (It simply saves the contents of one of your registry keys to a TXT file.)

http://users.adelphia.net/~edandjenn/mc/JRMC_DSOptions_Save.zip

If this fails, I might have you export the whole MC12 HKCU Registry Key and I'll test it out on my computer to see if it makes it break on my system.

bbrip · « **Reply #74 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:47:53 am »

Norton tells me its a very nasty script and I should not run it.

JimH · « **Reply #75 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:49:38 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 10:47:53 am

Norton tells me its a very nasty script and I should not run it.

I'd trust glynor before I'd trust Norton.

glynor · « **Reply #76 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:50:33 am »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 10:47:53 am

Norton tells me its a very nasty script and I should not run it.

Huh?? That's bizarre! My Symantec AV certainly doesn't.

All it does is save the this registry key to a text file: HKCU\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback

If you want, you could just save it manually using REGEDIT. Do you know how? Or just tell Norton to trust it (you can look at the code of the script in Notepad to verify that it doesn't do anything bad -- it's not that complicated).

bbrip · « **Reply #77 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:35:54 am »

Ok, I've run it and here it is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback]
"Extensions Played in DShow"="3g2;3gp;aac;ac3;aif;aifc;aiff;asf;asx;avi;divx;dts;dvr-ms;flv;jts;m1v;m2t;m2v;m4a;mid;midi;mkv;mp2;mp4;mpa;mpe;mpeg;mpg;nsv;ogm;ra;ram;rm;rmi;rmvb;snd;tivo;tp;wav;wax;wm;wma;wmv;wv;wvx"
"Extensions Not Played in DShow"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\Audio Renderers]
"Zone 1"="@device:cm:{E0F158E1-CB04-11D0-BD4E-00A0C911CE86}\\Default DirectSound Device"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mp4]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}"
"ffdshow Audio Decoder"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}"
"ffdshow Video Decoder"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}"
"TransformFilters"="ffdshow Audio Decoder;ffdshow Video Decoder"
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

My PC survived the attack

Alex B · « **Reply #78 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:55:02 am »

I got more:

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback]
"VMRProcAmpProperties"=hex:00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,64,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,02,00,00,00,64,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
"Extensions Played in DShow"="3g2;3gp;aac;ac3;aif;aifc;aiff;asf;asx;au;avi;divx;dts;dtswav;dvr-ms;flv;jts;m1v;m2t;m2v;m4a;mid;midi;mkv;mp2;mp4;mpa;mpe;mpeg;mpg;nsv;ogm;ra;ram;raw;rm;rmi;rmvb;snd;tivo;tp;wmv"
"Extensions Not Played in DShow"="wav;wax;wm;wma;wv;wvx"
"Aspect Ratio"=dword:00000000
"Crop Edges"=dword:00000000
"Video Brightness"=dword:00000000
"Video Contrast"=dword:00000000
"Video Hue"=dword:000000b4
"Video Saturation"=dword:00000000
"Avoid WMV Acceleration"=dword:00000000
"Use VMR9"=dword:00000000
"Use WMV Acceleration"=dword:00000000
"Screen Grab Directory"="C:\\TEMP"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\ac3]
"TransformFilters"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\Audio Renderers]
"All Zones"="@device:cm:{E0F158E1-CB04-11D0-BD4E-00A0C911CE86}\\Default DirectSound Device"
"Zone 2"="@device:cm:{E0F158E1-CB04-11D0-BD4E-00A0C911CE86}\\Default DirectSound Device"
"Zone 1"="@device:cm:{E0F158E1-CB04-11D0-BD4E-00A0C911CE86}\\DirectSound: DMX 6fire Wave"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\avi]
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\dts]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{B4A7BE85-551D-4594-BDC7-832B09185041}"
"TransformFilters"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\dtswav]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{F26D9101-C7BE-4BCF-BE28-1617EBEFC810}"
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\m4a]
"TransformFilters"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mp4]
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mpeg]
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mpg]
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\wav]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"Wave Parser"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{D51BD5A1-7548-11CF-A520-0080C77EF58A}"
"TransformFilters"="Wave Parser"

I don't know what does the difference mean, if anything. Yaobing?

bbrip,

Did you try the WMP 6.4 program? (You don't need to install it. It comes with XP)

How about WMP 11 (or 10 if you have not updated) and MC 11.1?

EDIT

Actually, I am just assuming that you have XP and the latest MC build. I can't find your system info in any of your posts.

lepa · « **Reply #79 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:09:15 pm »

Quote from: glynor on August 30, 2007, 09:38:53 am

So does MPC. For example, MPC will handle FLV video differently than Windows Media Player does, even though both use FFDSHOW to decode it. That's because MPC runs the video through it's own internal FLV decoder first and then feeds that output to the input pin of FFDSHOW. FFDSHOW's dialog wouldn't show anything unusual if you looked at it while playing back in MPC though, because it only knows about it's own part of the chain (not what happened before or after it's done with the data).

I don't know ZoomPlayer well enough to say "with this particular piece of media, you are comparing apples-to-apples when comparing it to MC's playback". Now, it could certainly be that MC is broken in some way... But, it works for me and Alex and most other people just fine, so something is definitely odd here!

MPC has internal splitters for matroska/flv and others that is why it behaves little bit different. However MPC's internal splitters can be deactived so mpc the will use systems default splitters. My version of zoomplayer uses external splitter (haali for me) for mp4.

And yes I don't claim that MC's playback is broken. MP4's works fine for me too. I'm just trying to help bbrip with this just as you are.

I agree that trying with WMP 6.4 would be a good idea because it doesn't support "anything" internally. I have feeling though that it works like charm.

bbrip · « **Reply #80 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:11:52 pm »

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 11:55:02 am

bbrip,

Did you try the WMP 6.4 program? (You don't need to install it. It comes with XP)

How about WMP 11 (or 10 if you have not updated) and MC 11.1?
Actually, I am just assuming that you have XP and the latest MC build. I can't find your system info in any of your posts.

Have not played round with MC11.1 or WMP 10 / 11. Will do later but quite busy now (and travelling for a week as of tomorrow)

Yes, I do have XP and use the latest version of MC12 (308)

glynor · « **Reply #81 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:20:51 pm »

I think it's this:

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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mp4]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}"
"ffdshow Audio Decoder"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}"
"ffdshow Video Decoder"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}"
"TransformFilters"="ffdshow Audio Decoder;ffdshow Video Decoder"
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

It looks like the source filter is set to the file source, which won't work (it needs to be Haali or something else that knows how to split MP4 files). However, you're missing some other stuff there so something weird is going on (like the missing stuff in the DirectX Playback key and the FLV key stuff).

Download this registry file, extract it, and double click it (with MC closed). Then re-open MC and try playback.

The contents of the file are (culled from mine to match your option of having everything enabled for DirectShow):

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback]
"Video Brightness"=dword:000005dc
"Video Contrast"=dword:00002710
"Video Hue"=dword:000000b4
"Video Saturation"=dword:00002710
"Extensions Played in DShow"="3g2;3gp;aac;ac3;aif;aifc;aiff;asf;asx;au;avi;divx;dts;dvr-ms;flv;jts;m1v;m2t;m2v;m4a;mid;midi;mkv;mp2;mp4;mpa;mpe;mpeg;mpg;nsv;ogm;ra;ram;raw;rm;rmi;rmvb;snd;tivo;tp;wav;wax;wm;wma;wmv;wv;wvx"
"Extensions Not Played in DShow"=""
"Aspect Ratio"=dword:00000000
"Use VMR9"=dword:00000001
"VMRProcAmpProperties"=hex:26,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,64,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,02,00,00,00,64,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
"Use WMV Acceleration"=dword:00000001
"OMProcAmpProperties"=hex:dc,05,00,00,01,00,00,00,10,27,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,04,00,00,00,10,27,00,00,08,00,00,00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\avi]
"TransformFilters"=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\flv]
"SourceFilter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{C9ECE7B3-1D8E-41F5-9F24-B255DF16C087}"
"ffdshow raw video filter"="@device:sw:{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\{0B390488-D80F-4A68-8408-48DC199F0E97}"
"TransformFilters"="ffdshow raw video filter"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mkv]
"TransformFilters"=""
"VideoRendererFilter"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JRiver\Media Center 12\Playback Engine\DirectX Playback\Filters\mp4]
"TransformFilters"=""

This should basically be the defaults for Windows XP, except with all possible file types selected for DS playback.

JimH · « **Reply #82 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:22:30 pm »

Children, don't try this at home.

glynor · « **Reply #83 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:24:16 pm »

Quote from: JimH on August 30, 2007, 12:22:30 pm

Children, don't try this at home.

Yeah.... This is for this issue only! And actually, it wouldn't work at all for pre-XP boxes because the VMR9 renderer isn't available.

lepa · « **Reply #84 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:24:35 pm »

I see this kind of behavior also if I remove mp4 extension from DSTypes in the FileAssociations.xml
<DSTypes>m4a;aac;mp4;wv;ra;ram;rm;ac3;dts;3gp;3g2;rmvb</DSTypes>

E: oooops.. wrong file. Meant FileAssociations.xml.

Alex B · « **Reply #85 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:38:30 pm »

Quote from: bbrip on August 29, 2007, 03:34:06 pm

Yes, I reinstlaled version 308 and then reinstalled it, all doesnt make any difference. Also started with completely empty library. No difference. It simply keeps asking for that stupid Quicktime player

reinstlaled = uninstalled ?

I wonder if you actually let MC's uninstaller remove your old registry settings? It has a tick box for that. That should have cleaned the registry.

glynor · « **Reply #86 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:38:50 pm »

This actually brings up a really good point. It would be nice to have a method inside MC somehow to reset the DirectShow Playback Options to their defaults, if they somehow get all messed up!

It'd also be good to be able to get a dump of that information (perhaps in a more easily readable format) via a System Info dump type command too. Perhaps right in the Options --> Playback --> DirectShow Playback settings dialog just add something like a "Reset all Filters to Default" button and a "Dump Current Playback Settings" button.

That could save a lot of time and help diagnosing these types of issues!

bbrip · « **Reply #87 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:39:30 pm »

Quote from: glynor on August 30, 2007, 12:20:51 pm

Download this registry file, extract it, and double click it (with MC closed). Then re-open MC and try playback.

The contents of the file are (culled from mine to match your option of having everything enabled for DirectShow):

I downloaded, extracted and double clicked. It told me that it has written the entries to the registry. But after re-opening MC12, its still the same - asking for Quicktime.....

BTW, I tried with Windows Media Player 11 - and it works just fine with it. It opens the ffdshow and Haali icons in the system tray and starts playing.... Havent tried with WMP 6.4 or whatever as I cnat trace this on my machine.

So, just about everything and anybody plays these files - except for MC12

bbrip · « **Reply #88 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:41:08 pm »

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 12:38:30 pm

I wonder if you actually let MC's uninstaller remove your old registry settings? It has a tick box for that. That should have cleaned the registry.

Yes, I did. It asked for deleting registry files and I said, yes do so..... Then I reinstalled form scratch. Lost some settings - but so be it...

glynor · « **Reply #89 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:42:26 pm »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 12:39:30 pm

BTQ, I tried with Windows Media Player 11 - and it works just fine with it. It opens the ffdshow and Haali icons in the system tray and starts playing.... Havent tried with WMP 6.4 or whatever as I cnat trace this on my machine.

So, jkust about everything and anybody plays these files - except for MC12

Yeah... Looking at that registry file you posted and comparing to mine, I can clearly see something's messed up with your MC12 install, so it is definitely MC and not the filters on the system.

I'm also surprised the Un/Reinstall didn't fix this, as Alex mentioned. And I'm REALLY shocked that importing the REG didn't work.

Just to make sure, MC was closed when you double clicked on the REG right?

Alex B · « **Reply #90 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:43:02 pm »

Quote from: bbrip on August 30, 2007, 12:39:30 pm

... Havent tried with WMP 6.4 or whatever as I cnat trace this on my machine. ...

Quote from: Alex B on August 30, 2007, 05:54:20 am

... Since some other players like Zoomplayer may have built-in preferences for the filter selection it would be good to try a very simple player - for example, the old Windows Media Player 6.4. It is about the most basic DirectShow player. On XP you can open it from Start menu > Run > Open: mplayer2 (write this name in the dialog box).

Maybe it would be good to try MC11.1 also. If you don't have it installed you can install it besides MC12 without problems. The programs use separate file locations and registry settings. ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/old/MC111201.exe

If WMP 6.4 and MC11.1 work normally then we can be fairly sure that the problem is related to MC12 and your specific setup. ...

glynor · « **Reply #91 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:44:27 pm »

Do you have any kind of registry-protecting security software on the system? Anything other than regular Norton Anti-Virus (like an Anti-Spyware or "System Doctor" type program)?

Oh yeah... and on a happier note... Where are you going?

I'm pretty excited... We're leaving for the Outer Banks (North Carolina) in about a week. Woo-hoo!!!

bbrip · « **Reply #92 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:45:02 pm »

Quote from: glynor on August 30, 2007, 12:42:26 pm

Just to make sure, MC was closed when you double clicked on the REG right?

Yes it was. And it did not report any erros that it could not write the entries to REG. Just said it has written them....

glynor · « **Reply #93 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:46:15 pm »

I'm completely baffled....

$:-\$

Alex B · « **Reply #94 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:47:46 pm »

How does the registry look now?

bbrip · « **Reply #95 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:48:24 pm »

ok, now also tried with mplayer 6.4 (mplayer2 entered into the run box).

Played it fery smoothly and uses ffdshow and haali as one would expect.

lepa · « **Reply #96 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:48:38 pm »

Could you take a look at your Data\FileAssociations.xml file? MC asks for QuickTime for me too if I remove mp4 extension
from the types that uses directshow. Long shot but worth a shot?

<DSTypes>m4a;aac;mp4;wv;ra;ram;rm;ac3;dts;3gp;3g2;rmvb</DSTypes>

glynor · « **Reply #97 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:49:27 pm »

Quote from: lepa on August 30, 2007, 12:48:38 pm

Could you take a look at your Data\FileAssociations.xml file? MC asks for QuickTime for me too if I remove mp4 extension
from the types that uses directshow. Long shot but worth a shot?

<DSTypes>m4a;aac;mp4;wv;ra;ram;rm;ac3;dts;3gp;3g2;rmvb</DSTypes>

I agree. A VERY long shot, but who knows.

lepa · « **Reply #98 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:50:43 pm »

Ok. I go away.

bbrip · « **Reply #99 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:51:46 pm »

Here is this file associations thingy.....

- 
- <MJFA version="1.041">
- 
- <DescriptionTypes>
<Audio>WAV Audio (wav,raw);AU Audio (au,snd);AIF Audio (aif,aifc,aiff);MPEG Audio (mp3,mpa,mpga);MIDI Audio (mid,midi,rim,rmid);Windows Media Audio (wma,wax);MusicEx Media (jmx);Audible Audio (aa);RealAudio (ram,ra);OGG Audio (ogg);MPC Audio (mpc,mp+);Monkey's Audio (ape,apl,mac);CD Audio (cda);Shorten Audio (shn);AAC Audio (m4a,m4p,m4b,aac);CUE Files (cue);WavPack (wv);AC3 Audio (ac3);DTS Audio (dts);</Audio>
<Image>JPEG Image (jpg,jpe,jpeg);GIF Image (gif);BMP Image (bmp);TIFF Image (tif,tiff);PNG Image (png);RAW Images (crw,cr2,nef,mrw,orf,raf,pef,dng,srf,arw,x3f);</Image>
<Video>MPEG Video (mp2,mpeg,mpg,m1v,mpv,mpe,m2v,m2t,tp);Windows Media Video (wmv,wvx,dvr-ms);QuickTime (mov,qt,mp4,m4v);AVI Video (avi);RealVideo (rv,rmvb);ShockWave (swf);DIVX Video (divx);DVD Video (ifo,vob);Media Containers (mkv,ogm);Tivo (tivo);Flash Video (flv);3GP (3gp,3g2);JRiver TV (jts)</Video>
<Data>MS Office Files (doc,xls,csv,ppt,mde,mdb);Adobe Acrobat Files (pdf);Text Files (txt,rtf,log);Source Files (cpp,h,c);Webpage Files (html,htm,mht,url);Executables (exe);</Data>
<Playlist>Media Playlist (mpl);Audio Playlist (m3u,pls,xpl,bpl);</Playlist>
<Unknown>Windows Media (asx,asf,wm);RealMedia (rm,rp,rmm,rmx,smi,smil,rmj);Podcast (feed,itpc,opml,pcast,podcast);</Unknown>
</DescriptionTypes>
- 
<DefaultFileTypes>jmx;mp3;wma;wmv;avi;m3u;wav;pls;mpl;mpc;ogg;ape;jpg;tif;mpg;feed;itpc;opml,pcast;podcast;ifo;vob</DefaultFileTypes>
- 
<MJTypes>mp3;wav;raw;au;wma;ogg;ape;apl;mac;mp+;mpc;mpp;vqf;cda;mpga;jmx;shn;aa;ifo;vob;opml</MJTypes>
<IMGTypes>jpg;jpe;gif;jpeg;bmp;tif;tiff;png;crw;cr2;nef;mrw;orf;raf;pef;dng;srf;arw;x3f</IMGTypes>
<DXTypes>wma;snd;aif;aifc;aiff;mid;rmi;midi;mpeg;mpg;m1v;m2v;mp2;mpa;mpe;m2t;tp;asx;wax;wvx;asf;wm;wmv;avi;wmv;wav;divx;mkv;ogm;dvr-ms;tivo;nsv;flv;jts</DXTypes>
<RPTypes>mpa;mpv;mpg;mpeg;aiff;aif;mid;rmi;rmid;lsy;lqt;la1;ram;rmm;pls;rp;r3t;ra;rv;rm;rmd;rmx;rmj;rtx;rt;rup;smi;smil;swf;avi;wav;rmvb</RPTypes>
<QTTypes>qt;mov;mp4;m4a;m4p;m4b;aac;m4v;3gp;3g2</QTTypes>
<DSTypes>m4a;aac;mp4;wv;ra;ram;rm;ac3;dts;3gp;3g2;rmvb</DSTypes>
<OTTypes>feed;itpc,pcast;podcast</OTTypes>
- 
- <MimeAssociations>
- <Audio>
<aa>audio/audible</aa>
<aac>audio/aac;audio/x-aac</aac>
<ac3>audio/ac3</ac3>
<aif>audio/aif</aif>
<aifc>audio/aifc</aifc>
<aiff>audio/aiff;audio/x-aiff</aiff>
<ape>audio/ape</ape>
<apl>audio/apl</apl>
<mac>audio/mac</mac>
<mpc>x-musepack;audio/mpc;audio/mp+</mpc>
<asx>audio/asx</asx>
<asf>audio/asf</asf>
<dts>audio/dts</dts>
<au>audio/au;audio/basic</au>
<snd>audio/snd</snd>
<mid>audio/mid;audio/midi;audio/x-mid;audio/x-midi;midi/mid</mid>
<rim>audio/rim</rim>
<rmid>audio/rmid</rmid>
<mp3>audio/mpeg;audio/mp3;audio/mpg;audio/x-mp3;audio/x-mpeg;audio/x-mpg</mp3>
<mpa>audio/mpa</mpa>
<mpga>audio/mpga</mpga>
<ogg>audio/ogg</ogg>
<m4a>audio/m4a</m4a>
<m4p>audio/m4p</m4p>
<ram>audio/x-pn-realaudio;audio/ram</ram>
<ra>audio/ra</ra>
<rm>audio/realaudio</rm>
<mm>audio/mm</mm>
<mx>audio/mx</mx>
<smi>audio/smi</smi>
<smil>audio/smil</smil>
<rmj>audio/rmj;application/vnd.rn-realsystem-rmj</rmj>
<rmx>application/vnd.rn-realsystem.rmx</rmx>
<wma>audio/x-ms-wma;audio/wma</wma>
<wax>audio/x-ms-wax;audio/wax</wax>
<wav>audio/wav;audio/x-wav</wav>
<raw>audio/raw</raw>
</Audio>
- <Image>
<bmp>image/bmp</bmp>
<gif>image/gif</gif>
<jpg>image/jpeg;image/pjpeg;image/jpg</jpg>
<png>image/png</png>
<jp2>image/jpeg2000</jp2>
<pict>image/pict</pict>
<tif>image/tiff</tif>
<tiff>image/tiff</tiff>
<xbm>image/xbm</xbm>
<cr2>image/cr2</cr2>
<crw>image/crw</crw>
</Image>
- <Video>
<avi>video/x-msvideo;video/avi;video/msvideo</avi>
<asx>application/x-mplayer2;video/asx</asx>
<m4v>video/x-m4v;video/m4v</m4v>
<mp4>video/mp4</mp4>
<mpeg>video/mpeg;video/mpg;video/x-mpeg;video/x-mpeg2a</mpeg>
<mpg>video/mpg</mpg>
<mp2>video/mp2</mp2>
<m1v>video/m1v</m1v>
<mpv>video/mpv</mpv>
<mov>video/mov;video/quicktime</mov>
<qt>video/qt</qt>
<rv>video/rv</rv>
<wm>video/x-ms-wm;video/wm</wm>
<wmv>video/x-ms-wmv;video/wmv</wmv>
<wvx>video/x-ms-wvx;video/wvx</wvx>
<wmx>video/x-ms-w,x;video/wmx</wmx>
<divx>video/x-divx;video/divx</divx>
<xvid>video/xvid</xvid>
<vob>video/dvd</vob>
<swf>application/x-shockwave-flash</swf>
<asf>video/x-ms-asf;video/x-ms-asf-plugin</asf>
</Video>
- <Data>
<htm>text/html</htm>
<html>text/html</html>
<txt>text/plain</txt>
<rtf>text/rtf</rtf>
<doc>application/msword</doc>
<xls>application/msexcel</xls>
<ppt>application/mspowerpoint</ppt>
<mde>application/mde</mde>
<mdb>application/mdb</mdb>
<pdf>application/pdf</pdf>
<ps>application/postscript</ps>
<torrent>application/x-bittorrent</torrent>
<csv>text/csv</csv>
<vcf>text/vcard</vcf>
<c>text/c</c>
<h>text/h</h>
<cpp>text/cpp</cpp>
<podcast>application/podcast+xml</podcast>
</Data>
- <Playlist>
<m3u>audio/mpegurl;audio/x-mpegurl;audio/mpeg-url</m3u>
<mpl>application/x-mediajukebox-mpl</mpl>
<ifo>content/dvd;video/ifo</ifo>
<pls>audio/x-scpls</pls>
<xpl>audio/xpl</xpl>
<bpl>audio/bpl</bpl>
</Playlist>
- <Unknown>
<rss>application/rss.xml;text/rss</rss>
<xml>application/xml;text/xml</xml>
<asf>application/vnd.ms.wms-hdr.asfv1</asf>
</Unknown>
</MimeAssociations>
</MJFA>

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