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Theater View Is Not Related to Main Database View Schemes
Doof:
How about adding a "Hide this view from Standard View" checkbox and then a menu item to "Show/hide hidden view schemes"? Then the people who don't want their Theater View view schemes cluttering up standard view can hide them, those that want them in both places can have them in both places, and you already have a checkbox that keeps standard view view schemes from cluttering up Theater View.
Then, if you really don't like the current way of showing nested view schemes, display them like in raym's mockup.
Wouldn't that make everybody happy and accomplish all goals? Or am I missing something? I have to admit that I have two PCs running MC. One only uses Standard View, and the other only uses Theater View. So this has never really been a problem for me.
glynor:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 16, 2008, 06:35:26 am ---I like this.
And there have been several requests in the past to make the Views menu in Theater View fully and independently configurable. In my opinion, the browsing paradigm is different enough from Standard View that different views make sense.
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While I was up red-eyed and cursing too much caffeine last night I was considering effectively the same solution. I don't really like the exact implementation raym suggested because my list is longer and wouldn't fit in that horizontal listing. However, some "view scheme switching" method could certainly work, if it wasn't stuffed under a random left-toolbar button. I was thinking of more of a combobox-like solution (like the current dropdown panes, actually).
However, there are some basic technical navigation problems with this as well. How would you move "up" when you have more than one screenful of data showing in the view? Sure, you could use Page Up/Down, but we want this to work with only arrow keys and enter, right? So then, if Up/Down still moves the file/pane item selection up and down, how do you get into this new View navigation bar area?
I want to think on it a little more... Got some ideas brewing along these lines though.
One thing I was thinking though... I would STILL want to be able to click on Video from Home and be presented with a list of configurable choices: TV Shows, Movies, Home Videos (Calendar), Home Videos (Keywords), Imports, Podcasts, etc. I can understand how some people would not want to be forced to jump through this hoop though, even if they may want to have a few other views that they'd use occasionally.
I'm thinking that instead of remembering which view was used last (the current system for direct-to-panes), perhaps we could get two checkboxes in the Options section of the Edit View Scheme dialog (I still think they should just be the regular view schemes, but it could also be in the Edit Theater View Views dialog):
Theater View:
Show In Theater View
Use as default view for: (combobox containing Audio, Video, or Images)
And then, if NO view scheme has that "default view" option selected, it'd show you a list. If one does, it would just jump directly to that view (while giving you the option of changing once you're there via a method somewhat similar to what raym suggested).
Like I said though... Still percolating.
raym:
--- Quote from: glynor on August 16, 2008, 07:48:22 am ---I don't really like the exact implementation raym suggested because my list is longer and wouldn't fit in that horizontal listing.
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That's why I said "revolving". The "<" and ">" are supposed to indicate this. Pressing ">" (for example) would expose more choices to the right and visa versa for "<". Like I said, the best example of this that I can give is the way Vista Media Center does it.
--- Quote from: Matt on August 16, 2008, 06:35:26 am ---I like this.
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Cool! If a solution like this is adopted, the only thing I'd like to add is:
1. PLEASE make it a configurable skinning item in terms of where it can be positioned on screen, color etc
2. PLEASE allow list wrapping from this view selector. Ie, if I arrow UP from here, the cursor wraps to the bottom of the screen (as it does currently in all views).
--- Quote from: Matt on August 16, 2008, 06:35:26 am ---I agree that a way to copy a view scheme into the Theater View view list from Standard View would be nice.
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I'm glad you agree! ;)
Thanks
glynor:
Hmmm... Hadn't caught that. That could certainly work. You could have it set so that if your current focus is in the file/panes area and you arrow up to the top of the current page it would "highlight" this nav. Then an additional up keypress would scroll up thru the list (you could show a onscreen ^ symbol as a cue), but if you hit left/right instead it'd scroll thru the views list.
Yeah, I think that could work well! And you could even have several tiers of views if you want.
I still do not like the "separate TV scheme" configuration thing tho...
raym:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 16, 2008, 06:35:26 am ---I agree that a way to copy a view scheme into the Theater View view list from Standard View would be nice.
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The other drag about not having the view schemes tied to the main db is that I typically administer the MC db from my desktop running MC in standard view. I then copy these db updates to each of my HTPCs around the house thru automated scripts to keep them all in sync.
As a result of this change though, I would need to pull out a keyboard and mouse on each of my HTPCs and apply the same view scheme changes on EACH and EVERY one of them whenever I decide to make a change to a tv view scheme. I really love how I can do all MC db changes I need from one central location and easily apply it to all other machines.
What about people who use Library Server with their HTPCs? Same problem! They make a change to their view schemes on the master db and these won't show up on the clients! Not ideal...
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