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Theater View Is Not Related to Main Database View Schemes
jmone:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 17, 2008, 12:36:28 am ---Theater View views are stored in the database.
Showing data files in a video view is tricky. We'll have to think about it.
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Ahhh but many people store their DVD (and in my case Blu-ray / HD-DVD) in ISO's which is then launched when selecting them and until this build it was all fine. There have been a heap of posts on how to do this in MC12 (it is even part of the WIKI http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/DVD_Library_in_Media_Center ) and with the latest addition of assignable coverart it is even easier.
Sorry but, I'm starting to think evil thoughts on the new TheaterView View Scheme setup....
rpalmer68:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 17, 2008, 01:03:08 am ---I got confused just reading that.
The goal is to have a clean and simple list of views available in Theater View.
The default view schemes the player includes do not fit the bill. For example, Quickies / Keywords / Rating is great for images in Pane view. It's too complicated in Theater View where you only see one level at a time. So using the list of Standard View view schemes for the Theater View views isn't too neat.
Separating the Theater View and Standard View views solves this problem. We just need to make sure it's easy to configure both sets of views.
Putting a "Theater View" item in the audio / images / video area of the tree was one solution, but it's clutter. Giving an optional way to show that item just for configuration was another thought. We don't know how to make that clear.
We're open to other ideas, but the goal stated above must be fulfilled.
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In some ways I like the theater views split away from the standard view, one thing I didn't want in my "Audio" Theater View was the genre being populated, so when people selected "Audio" they only got to see the views I had defined.. the only way I coud do this was to edit the Top level "Audio" view in standard view and remove the View items, which then made "Audio" useless in standard view which was annoying.
But than I also see the issue of having views defined in two places, which adds confusion...
Could the theater views move back under the standard views and just be color coded somehow? So views available in Theater View are a different color to ones only available in standard view?
Richard
raym:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 17, 2008, 01:03:08 am ---Putting a "Theater View" item in the audio / images / video area of the tree was one solution, but it's clutter. Giving an optional way to show that item just for configuration was another thought. We don't know how to make that clear.
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Adding a dedicated "Theater View" item in each of the audio/images/video trees makes the most sense to me. This is clear and self explainatory. Allow people to hide this if neccessary via the "features" option.
I do appreciate the goal of having a clean and simple list of views available in Theater View but tucking them away in the options dialog (for example) is not ideal. It's fine for options and settings pertaining only to Theater View but much of the power of Theater View lies in its customisable view schemes which in turn, is a major component of MC in general. For this reason, I think they belong in the same area as all the other view schemes and we should be able to link to existing Standard View ones if required to avoid duplication.
--- Quote from: Matt on August 17, 2008, 12:36:28 am ---Theater View views are stored in the database.
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Oh, that's good!
Thanks.
jmone:
--- Quote from: jmone on August 17, 2008, 01:11:56 am ---Ahhh but many people store their DVD (and in my case Blu-ray / HD-DVD) in ISO's which is then launched when selecting them and until this build it was all fine. There have been a heap of posts on how to do this in MC12 (it is even part of the WIKI http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/DVD_Library_in_Media_Center ) and with the latest addition of assignable coverart it is even easier.
Sorry but, I'm starting to think evil thoughts on the new TheaterView View Scheme setup....
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I've found a workaround (for now) of using a playlist but it is really not ideal but at least I can view and launch my ISOs. I used to group all my videos together by Genre (Movies, Music Videos etc) regardless if they were an ISO, VOB, MPEG, AVI etc.....On a brighter note the new assign cover art is nice!
glynor:
--- Quote from: raym on August 17, 2008, 02:36:52 am ---Adding a dedicated "Theater View" item in each of the audio/images/video trees makes the most sense to me. This is clear and self explainatory. Allow people to hide this if neccessary via the "features" option.
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I agree completely. If you need it to be separate from the main View Schemes, the best alternative is the Subsection of each of the main sections.
These subsections should also allow their own custom filters (just like any View Scheme). That way, if you want to, you could add [Media Type]=Data and [File Type]=iso to the Video Theater View Views scheme and all of the Theater View views would work with these files. I'd also use it to filter out files (like my "video editing stock library files") that you don't ever want to see in Theater View.
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