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glynor:
--- Quote from: hit_ny on September 04, 2008, 06:55:43 am ---Why ??
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Because, right now, Interact is a place I come to not think about politics. A place to pry myself out of full-blown, involved, political-junkie-mode. You needled me a little bit though (not in a mean way, of course), so I will say this...
--- Quote from: hit_ny on September 04, 2008, 06:55:43 am ---How much foreign policy experience did Bush require ?
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Two things...
1) If you're going to lead with that, people are only going to laugh at you. A much better example is the other man from Illinois. Funny that you're suddenly arguing our points for us, though, isn't it? I think you can call that a win for Obama.
2) I don't think Bush's problem was lack of experience at all. Certainly he had plenty of people who had plenty of experience that he could call upon (not the least of which were his father and Dick Cheney) for help. His main problem was that he let ideology trump reason, and where not directed by ideology (which was mostly founded in religion and personal family issues) he was guided almost entirely by short-term political considerations.
And, lastly, regarding why Kerry may have considered McCain a running mate? I think Kerry himself said it best... Candidate McCain turned out not to be the same person as Senator McCain was this time around.
skylarplane:
Subject: Experience
OBAMA`S WORK EXPERIENCE, AND KNOWLEDGE:
�- In the US Senate, Barack Obama has served on the FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOUR & PENSION COMMITTEE.
�- Before getting to the US Senate Obama served 11 years in the Illinois State Senate.
�- Barack Obama is a graduate TOP of his class at Harvard Law School. (Magna Cum Laude)
�- While at Harvard Law School - President of Harvard Law Reveiw
�- Barack Obama also has a degree in Political science specializing in International Relations.
�- Barack Obama worked in Chicago, Illinois as a community organizer, Obama, as the director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago, helped set up ajob training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.
�- Barack Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for a community organizing institute.�Barack Obama worked as a Civil Rights lawyer for 9 years.
�- Barack Obama was also a University of Chicago Constutitional Law Professor for 12 years.
�- In the US Senate Obama has written 890 pieces of legislation, and co-sponsored 1096 pieces of legislation.
Palin's resume:
1984 - Miss Wasilla
1984 - Miss Alaska pageant runner up
Bachelor's Degree in Journalism from University of Idaho
1992 through 1996 - City Council, Wasilla, Alaska
1996 - 2002 - Mayor, Wasilla, Alaska (Population 5,470)
2002 - Unsucessful bid for Lieutenant Governor of Alaska
2006 - Governor of Alaska and Soccer Mom
hit_ny:
--- Quote from: glynor on September 04, 2008, 09:15:56 am ---1) If you're going to lead with that, people are only going to laugh at you. A much better example is the other man from Illinois. Funny that you're suddenly arguing our points for us, though, isn't it? I think you can call that a win for Obama.
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They have plenty of experts to advise them on these issues. Even tho it sounds like i'm making the argument for you, it really isn't one to me, foreign experience is good but not essential.
What bout matruity tho, white hair and all :D
The taxes angle is tricky, can always scare ppl with it, this one worked wonders in the UK back in the day.
How much is all this 'change' gonna cost :)
--- Quote from: glynor on September 03, 2008, 07:50:48 pm ---I think it could certainly be argued that FDR, Nixon, and that Reagan did, among others. They may not have always changed it in the ways that they planned, but changed it they did.
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Thing that stuck in my mind was what he said about special interest lobbies. Obama wanted to do away with them. I can't for the life of me imagine how he could pull that off.
DarkPenguin:
--- Quote from: hit_ny on September 04, 2008, 01:47:09 pm ---How much is all this 'change' gonna cost :)
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Less than the war, I should think.
Tax and spend vs borrow and bomb.
KingSparta:
--- Quote ---I'd rather see a Libertarian such as Ron Paul win, however unlikely.
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He may get 1%
Neal Boortz Would Be A Good Candidate, but i am sure he does not want to take a pay cut.
I wish they would put a cap on what the government wants to take from my pocket.
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