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DO NOT INSTALL iTunes 8
globetrotters1:
The whole story with Apple and its DRM lockdown mentality makes the whole iPod / iPhone etc.pp world mad - and it will go on and on and on! I really can't understand the whole hype around these expensive toys which are rendered useless within a short period of time.
That's why I decided a long time ago to stay far far away from all these gadgets, to stay away from any m4a files and to always laugh when I read that Jon Lech Johansen showed these greedy guys once again that bugging people simply doesn't work
And I'm absolutely convinced that it doesn't make much economical sense for JRiver to invest a lot of money into development of always new updated versions for something which is out of their influence or reach - they have much better things to do than wait for Apple to fool their clients again with a cool new version of iTunes or a new buggy version of an iPhone
All who buy all that have to blame themselves - imho
glynor:
--- Quote from: globetrotters1 on September 22, 2008, 07:14:45 pm ---to stay away from any m4a files
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Just thought I'd mention that M4A is just a special name for an audio-only MP4, which is a completely open standard, MPEG-4, Part 14 (ISO/IEC 14496-14:2003). You do not need Quicktime in order to handle M4A files, it is just one option that does handle them (because the MPEG-4 standard was based upon the Quicktime MOV container format). There are plenty of other ways to handle them though, and many of them are preferred anyway.
There is nothing inherently "evil" about the M4A file type. In fact, it is one example of a way in which Apple embraces open standards.
--- Quote from: JimH on September 18, 2008, 06:47:06 am ---It will break MC's support for iPods.
Here's just one example:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=48305.msg331141#msg331141
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I've been getting fairly regular crashes of MC12 and MC13 on my laptop, which does have iTunes 8 installed on it. It seems to happen more frequently when I have my iPhone plugged in, though it is NOT limited to these occasions. It also seems to happen more frequently when MC is background thumbnailing video files (which do include MP4 and MOV file types). I do not have anything unchecked in my DirectShow playback types (other than WAV) though, and those files are decoded by Haali and FFDSHOW, not Quicktime.
Is this likely related? I have not seen similar crashes on my other machines (none of which have iTunes installed). I'd certainly prefer not to have iTunes installed anywhere, but that isn't currently an option for obvious reasons.
I can certainly save and mail-in log files, if it would help.
p7389:
Why would anyone here want iTunes except to 1) update iPod firmware, but well, that only applies to the newest pods... they're done with previous generations, and 2) manage Touch/iPhone (in this case, I guess you are compelled).
These lockdown practices makes anything above iPod Classic/Nano (they seem to work OK and quite reliably - great work there J River!) unthinkable for me.
glynor:
--- Quote from: p7389 on September 24, 2008, 05:19:18 am ---Why would anyone here want iTunes except to 1) update iPod firmware, but well, that only applies to the newest pods... they're done with previous generations, and 2) manage Touch/iPhone (in this case, I guess you are compelled).
These lockdown practices makes anything above iPod Classic/Nano (they seem to work OK and quite reliably - great work there J River!) unthinkable for me.
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I agree. I have an iPhone, of course, though so little choice...
steveklein:
the iPhone is a sweet piece of technology. J River is a sweet piece of software.
it's ashame they cannot coexist, because together, they could really, really, really thrive.
the possibilities in my mind make me drool.
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