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[p7389]

EDIT: I also recorded a video to show the problem, in case I failed to explain properly.. There's no analyzing because I had loaded the file previously to test...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/p7389_files/JRMCf.htm

I've had this problem for a while in MC12, and I still do in MC13, and it is now time to get to the bottom of it!

I use a secondary zone for video playback (so that I don't disturb paused audio mostly). I don't organize videos in MC (currently), but launch the video files from windows shell. The problem is a lot of the time when I launch some video (it's enough just to put it in the playlist), MC sort of locks the focus. If I try to click on Opera, e.g., that window is only selected for a flash, then it loses focus. In MC I have the same problem, e.g. clicking on a menu brings that menu up for an instant, then it disappears. It's as though the computer refuses to let me do anything. I am usually able to get out of this deadlock through playing the videofile, stopping (sometimes multiple times). Trying to import videofiles brings the same behavior, I think. So I didn't bother (I had intended to perhaps start organizing video with 13...).

And one other thing: when bringing a file into MC, it takes forever for MC to "analyze" it. (I'm talking about x264 720p .mkv's here). Other programs like WMP, Zoom or MPC starts the same videos in a fraction of what it takes for MC to "analyze" them.

I'm running Vista x64 BTW.

Media Center 13.0.61 Registered -- C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 13\

Microsoft Windows Vista 6.0 Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
AMD Phenom X4 9950 2603 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 3929 MB, Free - 2357 MB

Internet Explorer: 7.0.6001.18000 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82.6001 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.0.6001 / Shell32.dll: 6.0.6001 / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive I:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive J:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  Drive I: Optiarc  DVD RW AD-7201S    Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /

Portable Device Info
  Removed devices:


Interface Plugins:
  last.fm (Active)
  Library Server
  TiVo Server
  UPnP Server (Active)

[JimH]

Did you check "always on top" settings for each zone?

[p7389]

Did you check "always on top" settings for each zone?

I'm not sure what you mean.. Where is that setting?

EDIT: I also recorded a video to show the problem, in case I failed to explain properly.. There's no analyzing because I had loaded the file previously to test...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/p7389_files/JRMCf.htm

You can see why I'm slightly annoyed at this... The computer becomes absolutely unusable. This time it got out of it itself it seemed, after a while...

[JimH]

Right click on display screen/ display settings/ always on top.  For each zone.

[Alex B]

I use a secondary zone for video playback (so that I don't disturb paused audio mostly). I don't organize videos in MC (currently), but launch the video files from windows shell. The problem is a lot of the time when I launch some video (it's enough just to put it in the playlist), MC sort of locks the focus. If I try to click on Opera, e.g., that window is only selected for a flash, then it loses focus. In MC I have the same problem, e.g. clicking on a menu brings that menu up for an instant, then it disappears. It's as though the computer refuses to let me do anything. I am usually able to get out of this deadlock through playing the videofile, stopping (sometimes multiple times). Trying to import videofiles brings the same behavior, I think. So I didn't bother (I had intended to perhaps start organizing video with 13...).

And one other thing: when bringing a file into MC, it takes forever for MC to "analyze" it. (I'm talking about x264 720p .mkv's here). Other programs like WMP, Zoom or MPC starts the same videos in a fraction of what it takes for MC to "analyze" them.

Is the problem somehow related to the zones or why do you describe that part?

Does it occur only with x.264 mkv video files? Do you have any divx/xvid-avi or mpeg files that you can test?

Do you use CoreAVC for decoding x.264?

Can you right-click the display during playback and access the DirectShow menu? I guess also that is not possible, but if it works post the graph info here.   Right-Click > DirectShow Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard

[Alex B]

Right click on display screen/ display settings/ always on top.  For each zone.

I think that setting is effective only when the display window is detached. Even when it is enabled it should not steal focus from MC's standard view or other programs. It is supposed to just keep the detached display window on top.

[p7389]

Right, I tested with a standard xvid, and a wmv - it's the same problem.

And no, I guess it has nothing to do with the zones, I just thought I'd explain my circumstances and not exclude anything potentially significant. It's the same in zone 1 though.

I don't have CoreAVC installed. I think I use ffdshow and Haali Media Splitter...

You're right about not getting to that menu - until the focus "unlocks" (and BTW, it seems it always does do this given enough time)... Here's what you wanted:

Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
        CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
        Host: quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'

    Filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
        CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
        Host: C:\Program Files (x86)\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
        Host: C:\Program Files (x86)\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
        Input Pin 'In Text'

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Audio' of filter 'H:\TV\Test.mkv'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'H:\TV\Test.mkv'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'H:\TV\Test.mkv'
        CLSID: {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}
        Host: C:\Program Files (x86)\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Audio'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

[p7389]

I think this is a quite significant problem that severly impacts the user experience.. Nobody has any idea what causes this? Running 0.69 now.

[JimH]

It's not this problem, is it?

[p7389]

Is there any way to reset MC directshow settings? I think that when I tried to get the brightness setting to work (I failed, but found that I could alter it though ffdshows own controlpanel which is conveniently linked to in MC) I might have messed something up. I can't remember if I had the problem before.

[JimH]

Tools/Options/Playback/Video/DirectShow

This is moving in MC13 to:

Tools/Options/File Associations