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What is best way to Re-Rip Albums while preserving old library info?
Magic_Randy:
--- Quote from: Alex B on January 07, 2009, 07:17:23 am ---They are always stored in the library and by default also in the file tags.
If you are anal-retentive about storing only exactly correct numbers, then yes, you should analyze the new files in a way or another (assuming you are switching from a lossy format to losslesss or between two different lossy quality settings). It might be easiest to not analyze the files during ripping and run the analyzer separately after the new files are in place.
However, the difference between e.g. a typical high bitrate lossy format and lossless source is mostly academic. The peak values are usually slightly smaller in lossless, but the replay gain values are almost identical.
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Thanks...
I'll re-analyze everything after I've completed re-ripping the entire library.
rjm:
--- Quote from: dcwebman on January 07, 2009, 07:33:42 am ---rjm, you're not the only one that would like an easier way to do this. I have a bunch of stuff that I would like to move offline because I don't listen to them often and don't want to go through the re-rip process of all. At the moment I'm keeping them online because I have hard drive space but that means backups take longer too. It would be nice to get them offline.
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I introduced some unnecessary confusion in the above discussion. On my system I have changed the display name of the field Removeable to Offline. So everywhere above that I say Offline please read Removeable.
Also sorry to Magic_Randy for hijacking his thread. I'll shut up now.
Magic_Randy:
I'm out of town now, but will be back to my re-ripping project this weekend. I will finalize my workflow and provide an update to this thread for anyone that is interested.
What I've learned so far:
1) MC has the capability necessary to achieve this while preserving all of the valuable data in the library.
2) Every time I try to shrink the steps, I find that the longest path between 2 points is a short cut. I always end up having to do detail reviews of each CD I re-rip due to; not 100% match in track name, or not 100% match in album name. Example, I tried various workflows that overwrote existing files, but there are usually problems that have to be reviewed for and corrected.
3) The most fail safe approach is to use the technique of renaming files based on track number in a temp folder and copying them back to the final destination folder. This is the approach suggested by Alex B.
4) A problem I ran in with Alex B's suggestion is Disc #. I use Disc# with the same album name for all multi-disc CDs. I think I can do my re-naming based on Disc# and Track# instead of just Track#. I will finalize that process this weekend. That would solve this issue.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions, this is going to be a big project (well over 1000 albums) so I want to fix the process in advance.
BTW: I really like Alex B's enhancement suggestion for re-ripping (earlier in this thread). This may appear simplistic, but a simple solution in MC would make this process much more efficient. And sometimes a simple solution is best. If it does show up, I will test it (1000+ times).
Magic_Randy:
This is the process I'm settling on:
1) Turn off auto-import
2) Re-Rip to a temp location, using [Disc #]-[track #] convention as the outgoing files
3) Delete the freshly ripped files from the library
4) Select the album in MC, Rename old files to [Disc #]-[track #] convention
5) Use windows explorer to replace the old files with the new
6) Select the album in MC, do an Update tags from library
7) Select the album in MC, do an Update library from tags
8) Select the album in MC, Rename files back to the convention you use
9) Turn auto import back on.
Note: I'm using a 2nd library for the re-ripping.
I repeat step 2 multiple times to re-rip a batch of albums before proceeding to the next steps
Alex B:
Great, now the JRiver guys can follow these steps when they design the new re-rip tool. ;)
BTW, did you remember to select the secure ripping mode? Here's an old thread where its importance was discussed:
Topic: How can I ensure quality of a ripped music file
Also, you can load two instances of MC13 with different libraries so that you don't need to switch between the libraries all the time (Tools > Options > General > Advanced > Allow multiple instances to run at one time). The step number three is also unnecessary. You can simply trash the ripping library after you have finished.
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