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The DJ's Feature Request Thread
tunetyme:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 21, 2009, 11:02:35 am ---Perhaps you could post five popular songs that you think BPM is getting wrong?
Thanks.
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Matt:
I don’t do hip-hop or some of the more recent music. I’ve put together a list from 3 different sources for BPM. MC, Mixmeister, and Rapid Evolution (Mixshare). I have chosen 3 genres of music; Rock, Jazz and Classical to get a balanced look at the BPM. I’ve decided to submit this to all three providers. Both Mixshare Rapid Evolution and Mixmeister BPM calculator are free so you can download them and work with your own files. Both MC and Rapid Evolution work with flac files but I have to convert to a WAV for Mixmeister. If you like, I can upload all the files I used for the test. This is not an exhaustive sampling but a few chosen by their various tempos.
Rapid
Artist Song MC Mixmeister Evolution
Rock
ABBA One Of Us 164 82.32 43.13
Adams, Bryan Heat Of The Night 85 87.4 43.7
Aerosmith Kings And Queens 61 124.44 48.58
Allman Brothers Ramblin' Man 85 90.16 44.6
America A Horse With No Name 93 124.65 124.2
Animals, The House of the Rising Sun 117 117.62 47.6
Alabama Tennessee River 142 96.6 96.7
Jazz
Acoustic Alchemy Columbia 122 122.61 61.71
Adderley, Cannonball Autumn Leaves 111 112.04 55.72
Alpert, Herb Spanish Flea 162 162.15 81.47
Armstrong, Louis Muskrat Ramble 85 88.05 46.93
Barbieri, Gato Adios - Part I 84 107.46 65.45
Classical
Albinoni, Tomaso Adagio 100 110.36 43.36
Bach The Well Tempered Clavier 98 148.6 56.91
Bach, Johann Sebastian Air on a G String 110 112.67 50.42
Barber, Samuel Adagio For Strings 86 139 42.78
Beethoven, Ludwig van Fur Elise 84 119.91 44.62
I hope this helps.
Keep in mind when you are beat mixing a 5-6% bpm shift in the beat will cause a change in the key you hear the music. That's one of the reasons the getting BPM right is so important. When you listen to the Jazz and Classical I think Rapid Evolution (RE) appears to give the best results. RE also provides a means for you to tap out the beat for yourself if you are not sure. That is not one of my talents so I haven't done it. I will talk to one of my musician friends and see if they will do the manual testing for me. If I am successful I will post the results for you.
Tunetyme
Doberman:
I would still very much like to see (or have explained to me if I've missed it) a way to tell in the library pane which songs have been placed into the now playing pane.
hit_ny:
Don't believe its possible to do exactly what you want but how about NOT displaying in the library view what currently exists in PN. Would that work ?
Your idea is helpful if the playlist was very long and would save on going back and forth between PN & a library tab.
Welcome to Interact :)
Doberman:
--- Quote from: hit_ny on September 03, 2009, 01:32:49 pm ---Don't believe its possible to do exactly what you want but how about NOT displaying in the library view what currently exists in PN. Would that work ?
Your idea is helpful if the playlist was very long and would save on going back and forth between PN & a library tab.
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So you're suggesting a custom Library view that doesn't display items which are in the Now Playing view? I assume that must be possible? :)
That's not NEARLY an optimal substitute for what I want, but it would be better than nothing, I suppose. Thanks for the suggestion.
melkiades:
Hi guys,
I just read this whole thread and it contains a lot the things I've been wishing for when doing gigs using MC.
For me, the main reason to have DJ features in MC is that even the best DJ softwares out there are built with people who are clueless about User Experience (UX) and User Interface (UI) design.
For example, Virtual DJ has a very tiny window to browse your library that is annoying to use. Traktor has super tiny controls and crammed up screens.
The MC team has done a great application and I think that:
1. they've reached a level where the user base doesn't need new features for playing and managing their media libraries. At one point you have to learn to reduce the amount of features instead of adding more until the end of eternity. This is what irrelevant Microsoft did with their bloatware - it will contribute, in part, to their death (something I can't wait to see happen).
2. because of what I pointed out in 1., MC needs to attract a whole new user base. The DJ module is where they could excel, use their talent, build something unique and revolutionary, where the one advantage of this application (database management) is mixed with DJ'ing features to produce something new. Don't create another app, add a DJ'ing module.
I'd like to know also what would prevent a third-party developer to create a DJ plugin for MC with the wishlist features published here? Could we find some talented programmer here and start this project on our own, if the MC team is not interested?
Also, even though off-topic, I'm still wondering what the heck is JRiver waiting for to port MC to Linux. This great program is the *only* reason why I still use Windows!!!
Cheers to all,
Melkiades
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