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The DJ's Feature Request Thread
bunglemebaby:
--- Quote ---Add key determination (G, Bb, etc.) to audio analysis, when used with the Camelot mixing wheel you can mix songs that are in harmony as well as tempo (BPM). This really takes you to the next level.
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Personally, I think it would be more prudent to simply support importing this data from other sources. In general, the audio analysis of MC is pretty basic, which is reasonable considering the general market. There are other programs out there that spend all of their time developing algorithms to do things like key determination and as such should do a much better job than MC at it. If MC can simply support importing data from other tools that specialize in audio analysis, I'd be a happy camper.
That said, I've had a fair amount of luck importing data into customized fields, so if you've already got another tool for analyzing audio and know what tag fields it stores that data in you can probably have this data in MC as is.
hit_ny:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 21, 2009, 11:12:27 am ---We'll make 'Playback Range' user editable in a coming build.
You can put values like:
Times:
0:00-3:15
0:00.23-3:15.78
Milliseconds:
0-195000.243
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This is nice but does anyone think there would be a need to override playback range at any time ?
As once its set then it will always play that way, unless reset.
Here's how to query which tracks have playback range set ?
-playbackrange=[]
Alex B:
The playback range values will be stored in the database.
It might be a good idea to use a separate library for DJ'ing so that the stored ranges would not disrupt regular playback.
keither:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 21, 2009, 11:12:27 am ---We'll make 'Playback Range' user editable in a coming build.
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That's perfect. I had always wondered why that field wasn't editable. :)
Perhaps an advanced checkbox option in playback could disable it? Also, is there any way to write out (at a minimum) the 'start' point into the tags in a way that Traktor can read it? Traktor saves cue points in the tags, and it'd be great if I could drag a file from MC into Traktor and have it cued up to where I set the start point in MC.
tunetyme:
--- Quote from: tunetyme on August 04, 2009, 08:56:58 pm ---Add key determination (G, Bb, etc.) to audio analysis, when used with the Camelot mixing wheel you can mix songs that are in harmony as well as tempo (BPM). This really takes you to the next level.
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--- Quote from: bunglemebaby on August 21, 2009, 12:42:50 pm ---Personally, I think it would be more prudent to simply support importing this data from other sources. In general, the audio analysis of MC is pretty basic, which is reasonable considering the general market. There are other programs out there that spend all of their time developing algorithms to do things like key determination and as such should do a much better job than MC at it. If MC can simply support importing data from other tools that specialize in audio analysis, I'd be a happy camper.
That said, I've had a fair amount of luck importing data into customized fields, so if you've already got another tool for analyzing audio and know what tag fields it stores that data in you can probably have this data in MC as is.
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bunglemebaby
I hear you. There is more to mixing harmonically than just storing the information in a database. Take some time and look at http://www.mixshare.com/ "Rapid Evolution" or RE. It is free. What you will notice is that not only does it determine and store the key but it also highlights all the potential songs that will mix harmonically. I have over 18,000 songs. I need tools that will speed up the process of selecting songs and making playlists. I can select a style and narrow down the field of choices very quickly. My objective is to get the benefit of my entire database of songs not just the ones that I have rated 4 or 5 stars. Even the 2 star songs have a place in different mixes. They can sound great when they have the right song preceding them. For the average listener they want to hear their favorites and they play them over and over. I strive to broaden my music appreciation by building lists that include 2 and 3 star rated songs.
What RE does is identifies songs with compatible keys. They highlight the compatible song with different highlighting to help you choose the next song that will blend both harmonically and tempo (BPM). If you just want to play your favorites then this isn't for you. But if you want to create a certain ambiance for a dinner party and then lead into some dance music or some nice background music for conversation then this will help you do it. It is great to be able to create days of music to play in the background while you work. When it is mixed harmonically each song blends into the next with no apparent transition.
A really skilled DJ can take a crowd and move them from each extreme of emotions. I love having a playlist that takes me down from a day in the office and then sets the mood for a nice quiet dinner with my wife and then...
There is another good site http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/ that will help you understand the benefits of harmonic mixing.
As for MC, it is a great software for managing all your media. It has a solid database and is very capable of handling a lot of things that I will never use it for. I am interested in music and I would like to have one software package that does music exceptionally well. The whole idea of putting my music on my PC is so I can get it out in a pleasing sequence for me and my friends. Over the last few years, MC has been focused on adding new features to everything except the music portion of the program. There are many new developments that are creating competition for MC and our desiring that MC keeps up with the times is the objective.
As for importing and exporting the database and integrating it with other information, I would certainly welcome the ability to do that. I still can't read my exported HTML format from MC. I have requested that we be able to export it to a flat file or better yet be able to select the fields and sequence so I could import it to Excel or Access. That is a seperate issue.
Tunetyme
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