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gregious

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wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« on: May 05, 2009, 10:00:22 am »

Hello,

I love the MC13 interface and functionality, but the main reason I paid $40 to upgrade was for WASAPI support. WASAPI exclusive mode in XMPLAY works flawlessly in comparison. When I listen closely on soft music in MC13 I can hear occasional pops/clicks in the background. It's subtle, but it's there. WASAPI with exclusive mode unchecked does not have the issue.

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-No plug-ins running, and no visualizations
-Output to USB DAC, open device for exclusive access and flush device buffers both checked. I have also had flush device buffers unchecked, no difference.
-Buffering set to .05 seconds and prebuffer set to 2 seconds. I have tried different settings on both of these, no change.
-Playing 16/44.1 stereo FLAC files
-DSP settings are unchecked. I have also tried setting the output format to 16/44.1. No change.
-System info:
OS Name   Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Version   6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
System Manufacturer   Dell Inc
System Model   Dimension E521
System Type   X86-based PC
Processor   AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, 2300 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)   4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory   3.43 GB
Available Physical Memory   853 MB
Total Virtual Memory   7.10 GB
Available Virtual Memory   4.22 GB

Please help. This is the first time I've ever paid for a media player, and it's disconcerting that this does not function.

Thanks,

Greg
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 10:11:03 am »

I thought I heard some anomalies the first time I listened to WASAPI.  I eventually realized I was hearing all of the sound and not just part of it.

With WASAPI, the digital stream is passed directly to the sound device without any processing.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 10:11:38 am »

-Buffering set to .05 seconds and prebuffer set to 2 seconds.

Try 0.50 seconds for the buffer.  A hiccup may mean the buffer ran short of data.

You'll need to restart playback for changes to take effect.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 12:17:52 pm »

I thought I heard some anomalies the first time I listened to WASAPI.  I eventually realized I was hearing all of the sound and not just part of it.

With WASAPI, the digital stream is passed directly to the sound device without any processing.

No, I'm comparing it against XMPLAY WASAPI exclusive, Foobar Asio, Winamp Kernel streaming. All are bit perfect output. The popping isn't on the source recording. It's definitely the MC13 WASAPI implementation. There are no pops on any song with XMPLAY. There are on every song with MC13.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 12:19:12 pm »

Have you tried adjusting the settings?
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 12:20:27 pm »

Also, disable DSPs like resampling, equalizer, effects, etc. for testing.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 12:23:43 pm »

Try 0.50 seconds for the buffer.  A hiccup may mean the buffer ran short of data.

You'll need to restart playback for changes to take effect.

I set it to .5, and songs now skip outright, followed by MC locking up and shutting down. At .05, there was no skipping or hiccuping. It's not that type of issue. It's more like mild background popping and clicking like you might hear on an old vinyl recording. Otherwise songs play fine and sound fine, except for this tick every few seconds.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 12:25:39 pm »

Another thought is that you might try updating your soundcard drivers.  There are a lot of users using WASAPI, and this isn't something we've heard before.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 12:27:30 pm »

Also, disable DSPs like resampling, equalizer, effects, etc. for testing.

I generally disable all DSP in any program. It's disabled in MC13 too. No good.
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 12:54:30 pm »

Another thought is that you might try updating your soundcard drivers.  There are a lot of users using WASAPI, and this isn't something we've heard before.

That seemed to do the trick, Matt! It's a reasonably new PC and I hadn't thought of it. Just updated the sigmatel drivers and seems ok now.

Thanks!
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Re: wasapi exclusive mode ticks
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 12:58:58 pm »

Glad to hear you got it working :)
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