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JohnH

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involuntary automatic play?
« on: July 13, 2002, 04:11:09 pm »

I do not know if I am missing something here or what. MJ insists on playing CDs when they are inserted into CDROM drive even though I have unchecked the box next to 'Associate with audio CDs' in the 'Options' 'File Associations' settings. This is very annoying behavior when you are only trying to rip CDs.
Also, here is my system info.

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.327
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 500 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 136 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.4718
wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

MJ does not seem to recognize my dual PIII system. Is there some special thing I need to do to enable SMP for MJ? Why are there 2 aspi drivers in here? How can I remove them as I am no longer running any SCSI devices on this system?
Is there anything else obviously wrong here as MJ quite frequently exhibits some flaky behavior on my system. For example, the mouse pointer dissapears entirely while MJ is doing some library editing chores that might take some time. It will reapear if I move it off of the MJ window but dissapears while hovering over the MJ window. I thought the proper behavior should be to display the wait pointer. It also seems to crash alot, like when I am listening to a web radio station and put a CD in the drive to rip, MJ decides to play the cd before I have told it to do anything and then refuses to accept my requests to stop playing the CD. At this point I am forced to bring up Task Manager and terminate MJ.

Thanks in advance. I really do enjoy MJ as my CD collection was getting quite unwieldy. I just hope I can fix these few small problems.

JohnH
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2002, 04:27:32 pm »

MJ needs the ASPI for burner operations, on SCSI and IDE drives. this is because MJ uses Goldenhawk For Burner Operations unless you use the generic driver in MJ created by J river.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2002, 05:36:23 pm »

>> MJ insists on playing CDs when they are inserted into CDROM
i think there is a windows setting to turn that off.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2002, 06:55:47 pm »

So, lets see if I understand this.
Aspi drivers are needed for writing CDs.
2 aspi drivers are not unusual.
Any info on where I can disable auto launch for CDs? I checked in Device Manager/(specific device)driver properties, no switch for this in there, not in Win2K anyway.
How about the issue with SMP & MJ?
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2002, 07:38:34 pm »

Exactly what are you looking for SMP-wise?
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JohnH

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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2002, 08:15:16 pm »

Well, if you take a look at the sytem info I posted above;

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.327
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 500 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 70 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.4718
wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

You will notice that there is no mention of the fact that this machine is a dual PIII system. I was wondering if MJ is indeed aware that it is running on a dual PIII system and whether it is able to use both CPUs effectively and if so wouldn't it be a good idea for the system info function in MJ to note this in the report?
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2002, 09:40:45 pm »

Ah, OK.  Updating the info display to show the multiple CPUs would be a good idea, but MJ itself IS a multi-threaded program which means it will take advantage of multiple CPUs where possible.  There are only a very few operations where that's practical or needed, however.  

Take encoding MP3s for instance. That's probably the most CPU intensive task MJ performs but the LAME encoder opreates in a single thread and will therefore take advantage of only a single CPU.  Developing an encoder that dispatches the encoding of a single stream among multiple threads and maintains quality is not trivial.  Now some of us have asked for an enhancement that would allow multiple encoders to be started at the same time, each encoding a separate stream (I.E. overlapped ripping) which would definitely take advantage of multiple CPUs. That's relatively easy and hopefully will be included in version 9.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2002, 02:48:55 am »

JohnH

Don't have Windows 200
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2002, 07:04:31 am »

Thanks RemyJ. I think that answers one of my questions.
Now on to the others.
This AM I booted the system, launched MJ, checked this message thread and loaded some CDs into the drives in preparation for a ripping session. MJ noticed the CDs present in their respective devices, reported analyzing devices and crashed. I launched Task manager and checked the status on the applications tab. MJ and Please wait... are reported as not responding. What is wrong?
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2002, 07:13:00 am »

JohnH

by the way, GoGo Encoder allows for A Dule CPU, and you can use that as a External Encoder.

> MJ noticed the CDs present in their respective devices,
> reported analyzing devices and crashed.
i think i remember something about this a few weeks ago.

Did you search the forum for "analyzing devices"?
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2002, 09:02:18 am »

I have now, returns to many threads to be usefull. Obviously many people have bee having issues closely resembling this one and it has not been resolved yet.
Hoping this issue gets the attention it so clearly deserves.

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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2002, 09:09:42 am »

CD writers, in general, are a big problem.  Too many standards to choose from.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2002, 09:24:47 am »

GoGo does indeed use multiple CPUs and is VERY fast (39X as opposed to Lame's 13X for the same settings on my machine) BUT it is based on an older version of Lame (3.88 I think) and I've seen many references to poor quality.  Haven't done a side-by-side comparison myself though other than for speed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2002, 10:15:26 am »

>> Haven't done a side-by-side comparison myself though other
>> than for speed.
I did not notice a diffrence when i tested the two as long as you used the same bit rate.

I also had 3 others listen to them since i can't hear all that well anymore. They also could not hear any Diffrence.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2002, 01:56:33 pm »

Still have the problem of MJ always wanting to play any CD you put into any drive no matter what it is doing/has been told to do before that. I should do NOTHING until it is told to.
What is the reason behind having it dump any proccess it is currently executing to begin playing a CD anytime one is loaded? This is very annoying when you are listening to a playlist and want to rip some CDs in the background at the same time. I am sure that I used to be able to do this with no problem.

Thanks for the pointers about GOGO encoder though, I will try it.
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JohnH

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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2002, 07:28:01 pm »

MJ just crashed again while attempting to start playing CDs I had just loaded. It sure would be nice if the applications were at least as stable as the OS. I haven't had to reboot Win2K all day. Giving up.
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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2002, 10:36:46 pm »

JohnH,

In Win 2k you can disable autoplay through the registry as follows:
 
Change HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom change "autorun" to 0 (zero)

You can also press the SHIFT key when you insert a new cd to prevent autoplay.

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2002, 05:34:48 am »


JohnH-
wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)


I think this may be the problem. ASPI on Win2K consists of wnaspi32.dll and aspi32.sys and they need to be the same version. You can manually update aspi or if you rename the wnaspi32.dll file (in the system32 directory), MJ will ask if you want it automatically downloaded and installed (and the system will reboot).
Here's the link if you want to manually download and install it:
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.html?cat=%2fProduct%2fASPI-4.70&prodkey=ASPI-4.70#Microsoft%20Windows%202000
Another thing to check is in "Devices Settings", ensure that the "Type" field displays "IDE" and not "Aspi" for your CD drives.

Sorry for the delay in replying, but it was a hot weekend here - too hot for sitting in front of the computer.

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JohnH

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RE:involuntary automatic play?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2002, 04:49:50 am »

Thanks for the suggestion. I have replaced the aspi layer. I have not set the regitstry switch.

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.327
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 501 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 128 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.4718
wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

MJ is still crashing as it tries to identify new CDs loaded into the drive. I am about to give up and reload the OS to see if that resolves this unless anyone has any other suggestions.
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