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kristian

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FLAC converted from original AIF loses year in GUI
« on: June 24, 2010, 02:36:12 pm »

Hello,

First, thanks for a wonderful media player--it's a blast to use. I have the latest 14 (165?), and ripped my collection to AIF with dBpoweramp--dB was used so I could rip two streams simultaneously.

Now, when converting an AIF to FLAC, the album year disappears from the GUI. See dB thread here: http://tinyurl.com/2cf8yxe

Plan is to convert entire collection with dB batch converter to FLAC, but Man, I sure don't want to lose album years!

Thanks,

Kristian
 
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Re: FLAC converted from original AIF loses year in GUI
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 02:59:09 pm »

MC reads the FLAC Date field correctly. Something else is causing the problem.

Could you please convert a small tagged audio clip from AIFF to FLAC and post a link? A few seconds of audio would be fine since I would like to only inspect the tags. You can upload it to a service like www.rapidshare.com or www.megaupload.com .
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Re: FLAC converted from original AIF loses year in GUI
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 02:38:48 am »

MC uses the year value as a part of the actually functional internal date stamp. In MC it isn't just a string of any numbers or other characters.

The tag value in your file is 1998 08.

MC expects to see a plain year value. 1998 would work.

Ideally MC should read the first four digits, use them if they produce a valid year value and ignore any possibly existing subsequent characters in the value string.

EDIT

As you now may have guessed, MC can tag a precise date stamp to any files in the library - to audio, video, image, etc files. It can also store the date stamps in the physical file tags if the file format supports tagging. However, in FLAC files it uses a proprietary JR_Date tag in addition to the standard tag when a more precise value than a plain year is entered. The data format of this tag is identical to what MS Excel uses internally: number of days since the reference date aka epoch (more info: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=50750.msg346804#msg346804). This internally used value is not normally exposed in the UI. You can enter date values in the same format that is defined in the Windows locale settings.

EDIT 2

I added a link that points here to another similar problem report:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57470.msg395130#msg395130

However, don't expect MC14 to change anymore. If JRiver changes the behavior probably the fix will appear only in MC15.

I have the latest 14 (165?)

14.0.165 is the last MC14 build. The current version is MC15.
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Re: FLAC converted from original AIF loses year in GUI
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 05:07:17 am »

One more addition,

I converted your FLAC file to AIFF with dBpa and imported the AIFF file. MC uses a different code for reading the ID3v2 tags in AIFF files. The year value imported correctly, i.e. the " 08" part was ignored.

You may want to consider using MC for the AIFF to FLAC conversion. The year values would be tagged correctly. MC uses the latest FLAC reference code (v.1.2.1b) and the process would be fully lossless. You can easily search for AIFF files in the media library, select them all and convert. You can define the destination location, replicate the source folder structure (= create "n" levels of directory structure), and set the library behavior (don't add, add, or replace) and compression settings. I have explained the FLAC encoding settings here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57714.msg391586#msg391586
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Re: FLAC converted from original AIF loses year in GUI
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 10:09:33 am »

"You may want to consider using MC for the AIFF to FLAC conversion."

Excellent--I did not know until now that MC has conversion available--I'll just have it batch convert the entire collection. I wasn't stuck on using dB.

Thanks for your help!
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