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[mazspeed]

Ok, first off I love this software. I am a fan for life. One of the problems I am having is that I can rewind and fast forward non HD content, but not HD content. The slider just stayes on the far left of the scale and doesn't move as the movie or tv show is being played. Is there a fix with this? I just downloaded the newest version today, and still, same thing.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for this awesome software.

Mike

[mazspeed]

Anybody?

[JimH]

Could be a problem with the DirectShow filters being used.

Thanks for the kind words.

[glynor]

Thanks for bumping this thread.  I meant to get back to you on it, but I forgot.

This is almost certainly that you are using a "bad" DirectShow filter to play back the files.  I've seen similar behavior before on my own system with my H264 TS files recorded by my DVR application.  It is usually a simple matter of switching the active filters to a better set to fix it up.

Do me a favor... Play one of the "broken" files back, and while it is playing right click on the playback window and choose DirectShow filters -> Copy graph info to clipboard.  Then come back here to the forum and paste the contents of the clipboard into a new forum post, like this:

Code: [Select]

Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
        CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'CoreAVC Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'

    Filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
        CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
        Host: c:\program files\combined community codec pack\filters\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'CoreAVC Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {09571A4B-F1FE-4C60-9760-DE6D310C7C31}
        Host: c:\program files\corecodec\coreavc professional edition\coreavcdecoder.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31637661-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Apple Sound Media Handler' of filter 'MP4 Source'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Apple Video Media Handler' of filter 'MP4 Source'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31637661-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'CoreAVC Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31637661-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'MP4 Source'
        CLSID: {3CCC052E-BDEE-408A-BEA7-90914EF2964B}
        Host: c:\program files\j river\media center 15\plugins\mp4splitter.ax
        Output Pin 'Apple Video Media Handler'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31637661-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Apple Sound Media Handler'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
PLEASE NOTE: After you paste this code into the forum post, please select the text you just pasted and then click the # button in the forum's post editor.  This will wrap the text in a CODE block tag, which puts it in the gray box like mine above, and makes it much easier for us to read.

[mazspeed]

Hey glynor. Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure what you mean? I played the movies, and could not get anything to come up for direct show filters. I may need a step by step tutorial on how to do this. I played the movie and right clicked and could find nothing that matched what you said. Let me know what to do and I will post it. Thanks for answering.

Thanks
Mike

[glynor]

[mazspeed]

Will get right on that after dinner. Thanks

[mazspeed]

This is going to seem like a stupid question, but when I copy to the clipboard, where do I retrieve it from?

Thanks
Mike

[JimH]

You can paste from almost any program.  It's under Edit in IE, for example.

Select text
Copy or Ctrl C
Paste or Ctrl V

[mazspeed]

Hey guys, ok I can explain the issue a little better. I have 2 hard drive systems hooked up, the one local in the computer a back up 2tb hard drive, I can fast forward and rewind and all of that, but from my central server on a 1gb speed system, which is a raid 1 4tb system. I cannot fast forward or rewind. I had my friend across the street who has the same sort of set up I do, and he has the same issue. Is it because the central server is not as fast at streaming even though at 1gb transfer speeds, it won't be fast enough to use the fast forward and rewind? If I don't use HD movies it will fast forward and rewind like it should work, but not HD. Can this be fixed in the settings?

Thanks everybody
Mike

[glynor]

How are you connecting to the files on the network-attached storage?  Is it mounted as a normal network drive in Windows, or is there some sort of other shenanigan going on?

It is possible that it isn't fast enough, but the problem would be with the RAID, not with the LAN.  I use HD MKVs and MP4 files over a 1gbps LAN all the time.  Heck, I use HD TS files recorded in h264 at 6mbps all the time.  The only files I've been really able to consistently choke my network with are my Apple ProRes compressed HD files, but you wouldn't have anything like that.

However, it is MUCH more likely that it is a filter problem.  Post the info we asked for before, and I can probably give you an answer.  If you really don't feel like it, download and install CCCP and see if it solves your problem.

[mazspeed]

Ok hold on, will try to do that now.

[mazspeed]

When I right click inside the movie, I cannot see "Direct show filters" what am I doing wrong. Sorry for these lame questions.

[glynor]

That helps.  What file type are you playing?  Assuming it is MP4 or M4V...

Go to Tools -> Options -> Video.  Down at the bottom, change the file type to MP4.  What does the playback method say?  If it isn't set to Automatic, set it to Automatic and try again.  Same goes for M4V.  If the file type was MKV then I'm really confused because those shouldn't work at all without Directshow...

If it was already set to Automatic, or if changing it has no effect (you still don't see the Directshow menu on right click) then you don't have the right directshow filters you need installed, so it is defaulting to Quicktime playback mode (which is crappy).

Assuming this is the case... Install CCCP and it'll be solved.

[mazspeed]

Ok, it was at matroska video, and the playback was windows media engine. When I set these setting into the program, I get subtitles even though they are off on the video settings. What do I do to cccp now? Is there any special settings? Thanks again for all the help. I'm standing by. All files are .mkv by the way.

[mazspeed]

I do have ffdshow filters and coreavc as well.

[glynor]

Aha!  That should do it.

Fixing the subs is easy.  Go to Start -> All Programs -> CCCP -> Filters -> VSFilter Configuration.  In the dialog that appears, switch to the Misc tab, and check the Hide Subtitles box.

That way, it won't show subs by default.  If you want them (for a foreign language video, for example), then you just go down to the VSFilter icon (little green arrow) in the notification tray (by the clock) and enable them there.  When you enable them that way, it will only enable for that one playback "session".

Otherwise, they'll stay hidden.

I don't know why they set it up to automatically show them by default, but they do.

[glynor]

I do have ffdshow filters and coreavc as well.

That's good.  CoreAVC will handle HD h264 video much more capably than CCCP/FFDSHOW can on it's own.

[mazspeed]

Ok, you're going to kill me. When I open cccp. I can get into 2 screens, the first screen is ffdshow decoder settings and whatnot, and when you hit next, it has "VSFilter" with 2 check boxes. Nothing has anything with hiding or anything with hiding subtitles. I don't have direct show, should I download it? Also what setting should I be using in cccp? Thanks again for the help.

[mazspeed]

Also using haali media splitter. Not sure what it's use is.

[mazspeed]

Also it will go to automatic on the playback method, but reverts back to "matroska video" for the pull down box above playback method for decoders.

[glynor]

No, you don't want to open the CCCP Settings panel.  In the Start Menu, under the CCCP folder, there is a Filters folder.  In there they have all the configuration tools for all of the things CCCP uses to do it's magic, including the actual VSFilter configuration tool.

That's what you want.

Haali Splitter is part of CCCP (and CoreAVC).  It is the component that decodes the MKV files (and MP4 files and other types) and sends the contents to the playback filters (CoreAVC or FFDSHOW).  Don't worry about it, it'll do it's job fine without any help.

[mazspeed]

Ok got it. Thanks for that. Video still wont rewind and ff. Is that due to the fact that it's still stuck in matroska mode?

[glynor]

If you are on Windows 7, you can just click the Start button and then type:

vsfilter

and then hit enter.  That'll also open the right setting widget.

[glynor]

Ok got it. Thanks for that. Video still wont rewind and ff. Is that due to the fact that it's still stuck in matroska mode?

Hmmm... No.  The way that thing in MC's options works is that you first choose what type of file you want to configure (Matroska, in this case) and then you set the Playback Method for that type.  So if you change the  drop-down where it says Matroska to AVI, you'll now be configuring AVI files.  You really want them all set to Automatic, unless you know what you're doing.

But you have some sort of other crappy filter that is breaking playback.

Now that it is set to Automatic, you should have the Directshow Filters menu when you play a file and right-click on it.  So, do that thing I posted above, and paste the results.  We'll figure it out.

[mazspeed]

Ok, got it. It works so far, but now some of the movies are not playing in English, and it's set to English on MC. Let me see about the directshow tabs now. How do I get everything to play in English? Thanks again, you're the man.

[mazspeed]

Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
        CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'

    Filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
        CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
        Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {00002001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
        Input Pin 'Video Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
        Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Output Pin '~Line21 Output'

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Audio' of filter '\\DLINK-0CEC1E\Volume_1\Movies\Casino Royale.mkv'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {00002001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {00002001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter '\\DLINK-0CEC1E\Volume_1\Movies\Casino Royale.mkv'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter '\\DLINK-0CEC1E\Volume_1\Movies\Casino Royale.mkv'
        CLSID: {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}
        Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\haali\splitter.ax
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Video'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Audio'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Media Proxy Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {00002001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

[glynor]

Yeah, that's a pain.  It depends how the movies were encoded, and MC doesn't know how to set the Language type for all the weird filters out there.

There's a couple of places you can set this, but the one you probably need is Haali.

Go to Start and then type Haali and hit enter (assuming you're on Vista or Win7, otherwise it is in the same place as I explained above for VSFilter).

In the ugly Window that appears, switch to the Options tab.  Then click the Plus next to Languages.

Select the line that says "Audio languages priority" and then type eng in the Value box.

That will fix it for some files that are properly encoded with language keys.  Unfortunately, some aren't.  If it still doesn't work, you have to do this:

1. In MC, go to Tools -> Options -> Startup -> Startup Actions.
2. Click the button next to "Disable DirectShow Filter's tray icons"
3. Set Haali to No.
4. Restart MC.
5. Then, while a file that is in the wrong language is playing back, go down to the task notification tray (by the clock) while the file is playing, and right-click on the Haali Icon (it is white with a weird () thing in the middle), and you should get a menu allowing you to choose the proper language.  That will only apply to that one file though.

[glynor]

Good, you posted that info for me.  It all looks okay, except that you aren't actually using CoreAVC.  No big deal if playback works fine.  I'm confused though... Does your play head now move and work right?

However... You are on Windows 7, it appears.  For CoreAVC to work correctly with Windows 7, you need to use CoreAVC 2.0.  Are you still using the old version?  The old 1.x version of CoreAVC doesn't work right on Windows 7, particularly with MKV files.

If not, I can tell you how to fix that, but it is a little more complicated.

Nevermind.  I was reading too fast.

[glynor]

Actually... I didn't read it closely enough.  That looks like it is a MPEG-2 encoded MKV.  In that case, it is playing back using the proper filters for Windows 7.  Nevermind on the CoreAVC stuff (though you do still need 2.0 for it to work right with Win7).  It isn't relevant here though, because CoreAVC only handles h264/AVC files, not MPEG-2.

The "Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder" works fine though, and shouldn't be a problem.  I don't have any HD MPEG-2 MKV files to test with though, so I don't really know how that works...

I could make one tomorrow to test with if you really need it checked.

[glynor]

Are these BluRay movies ripped in full quality and then wrapped in MKV files?  How big are the files?

[mazspeed]

Ok I did everything you told me too in Haali, and it's still playing a few videos in a different language. I right click on the icon and it says V English with a dot next to it and down below it has "A" under Audio is also got a dot next to it. Nothing in English is on the "Audio" tab on the icon. Most files are from 4.4gb to 14gb or so. All are .mkv files in 740p to 1080p.

[glynor]

Yeah, that's the right place.  Under Audio, those things that say "A" are the different audio tracks in the MKV file.  If they aren't labeled as English, then Haali doesn't know which is which or which one to switch to automatically, so it just plays the first one.

If there is only one "A" line listed, and it is in the wrong language, then you have a bad file in the wrong language (whoever made the file didn't include the english track).

If there is more than one "A" line listed, then you just need to try each of them one at a time until you find the right one (hopefully).

Usually, the English track is listed first, because... You know, Hollywood is in America.  But not always, particularly from certain files obtained via less-then-legitimate means.  Sometimes they don't include English at all because they don't care if they're spanish-speakers or whatever, and it makes the files bigger to include multiple tracks.

[glynor]

You can also select the audio track during playback via the On Screen Menu system in MC.  If you are playing the file back fullscreen, hit the Down-Arrow on your keyboard.

The up and down arrows cycle through a set of different controls in MC, like brightness and volume level and contrast and stuff.  One of them lets you set the Audio Track.  Just keep hitting up/down until you find the Audio Track you want, and then hit the Right Arrow key to change it from "Not Selected" to "Selected".

That's the same thing as using the Haali Tray Icon to do it.  Either one works.

[mazspeed]

Hey, got it all figured out thanks to your help. Works like a charm. I deleted my last movie and am redownloading a much better copy from a better source. I think any movie that is like this I can get another. Now I can help my neighbor who just got this software yesterday to help him configure it as well. Thanks so much for your help with this. I can't thank you enough.

[glynor]

No problem.  Glad I could help!!

[mazspeed]

You did, big time. Thanks again. 

[JimH]

Nice work, glynor.  Thanks!