Topic: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus (Read 52091 times)

nijunge · « **on:** November 04, 2011, 02:56:21 am »

Im a new user and yes I did search first ;-)

digital devices (german company) make a Tv card system Octopus that are briliant (and working with MC) but does it work with J-R

Yes I did get the trial but stupid me didn't get arround to test before the period was out.

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JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2011, 07:11:20 am »

Welcome to the forum. You could test MC17 if you haven't. Or MC16 if you have.

tyler69 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2014, 04:36:00 am »

I am also interested in this matter, since I find this product quite interesting: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62357162/Products/290002

Does anybody have infos about the compatiblity with JRiver?

Thanks.

EDIT: I contacted Digital Devices and unfortunately they do not have any experience or feedback regarding JRiver compatibility. However they told me that as long JRiver works with RTSP links (e.g. through M3U Playlists), there should be no problems. Does JRiver "work" with RTSP links?

Hendrik · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2014, 07:47:15 am »

RTSP should be supported, as long as it doesn't use encryption.

tyler69 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2014, 07:51:15 am »

Thanks, guess i'll have to try it out for myself

tyler69 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2014, 07:36:56 am »

So I bought such a device and try to set it up in JRiver. However, the OctopusNet does not show up in "Devices" in the Television Setiup window. Any suggestions are welcome.
I had the manufacturer on the phone and they told me that JRiver is probably looking for a BDA driver. Because the OctopusNET is a SAT-IP device, there isn't such a driver. However he suggested to try out m3u files. I now saved an m3u file with a link to the stream but it doesn't start in JRiver..

JimH · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2014, 08:54:32 am »

MC can open an m3u file. Try File > Open.

tyler69 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2014, 09:00:12 am »

Thanks, already tried. It says "Opening" for about a minute or so then "something went wrong with playback".

Yaobing · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2014, 09:07:37 am »

The only non-bda devices that we support are CableCARD devices in the US.

I wonder whether OctopusNet is somewhat similar to CableCARD devices.

tyler69 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2014, 09:08:47 am »

Is the fact that this is an "Sat IP" device somehow interesting/helping?

tyler69 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2014, 06:09:49 am »

tyler69 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 25, 2014, 12:17:30 pm »

Yaobing · « **Reply #12 on:** December 25, 2014, 01:56:20 pm »

The answer is I do not know. I will have to investigate more. Right now, I know we do not actually support directly playing RTSP stream, but only in conjunction with some specific devices (i.e. CableCARD devices). If it is something similar, we might do something. I will look into it, but I will not promise you anything.

tyler69 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 25, 2014, 02:04:16 pm »

Thanks for the answer. The device is supported by DVBViewer and Elgato as far as I know. Since (at least in Germany) SAT-IP is getting popular, support by JRiver would be really nice.
http://www.satip.info/supporters

csimon · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2015, 07:38:08 am »

I'm sure I've mentioned Sat>IP here before, probably about a year ago, but I can't find the thread.

tyler69 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2015, 04:30:35 pm »

Yaobing, did you have any chance to look into it yet? Thanks.

Yaobing · « **Reply #16 on:** February 03, 2015, 09:17:58 pm »

I took a really quick glimpse at the specs. It seems to be possible. However, I am tied up with other things now, and I can not be sure until I read the specs more carefully.

tyler69 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2015, 01:04:52 am »

Thanks. Let me know if I can be of any assist.

nijunge · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2015, 08:24:26 am »

Well I'm back

I actually never got it to work with JRiver but would really love to. so any advice would be great

Niels

csimon · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2015, 08:33:31 am »

Yep, I'm now looking seriously at the Octopus Net! Humax have now got a PVR that can use Sat>IP and they have small media streamer boxes that can also use Sat>IP or connect to the network PVR. Or the DVBLink Software that now supports Sat>IP and runs on NAS boxes as well as Windows.

tyler69 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2015, 04:59:21 am »

Yaobing, could you shed some light on the progress of supporting SAT>IP and/or the OctopusNET?

Yaobing · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2015, 08:09:44 am »

Sorry, still no progress on that.

csimon · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2015, 06:57:06 am »

<bump>
Request to support Sat>IP tuners.

csimon · « **Reply #23 on:** May 07, 2015, 07:30:52 am »

<bump>

Yaobing · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2015, 08:00:10 am »

I am working on it. It has been slow partly because it is in unfamiliar territory, partly because of other things to do.

csimon · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2015, 08:09:45 am »

OK, thank you. AFAICS Sat>IP is an extension of RTP multicast & standard IPTV protocols etc (DLNA also appears somewhere but I don't know exactly how that fits in) so I guess this is more a case of enabling MC for IPTV reception rather than supporting a particular flavour of tuner?

Yaobing · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2015, 01:50:24 pm »

tyler69 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2015, 01:51:02 pm »

Yaobing · « **Reply #28 on:** June 02, 2015, 06:26:31 pm »

Sorry, I am just slow on this one.

tyler69 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 03, 2015, 01:52:48 pm »

Any news on the progress?

Yaobing · « **Reply #30 on:** July 03, 2015, 02:10:37 pm »

I am working on it. It is not working yet. As the first step, some time soon, maybe in the next week, a new build will allow you to see the devices in MC.

tyler69 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2015, 02:14:33 pm »

Great. Thanks!

tyler69 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 12, 2015, 03:40:04 am »

Any news? I hope this will find it's way into MC20?!

csimon · « **Reply #33 on:** August 12, 2015, 03:54:58 am »

FWIW I've just bought an Inverto Airscreen Sat>IP server iDL400s (works with Quattro LNBs as well as Quad, and also contains a DLNA server and USB port for storage, can connect up to 4 clients, clients can share feeds so you can work with just one feed, although I suspect it's an old-ish product any maybe won't be updated any more) and it arrived last night. MC can load its DLNA library and browse and play from there or use an external controller and send it to MC. Haven't had much luck with other DLNA players/renderers though. However I've downloaded the free Verizen Sat>IP client on both IOS and Android and after a lengthy scan it found most UK channels (but missing a few) and populated a mini EPG. The client also allows recording to the device. I wan to play around with other options for a while but I think eventually I will buy the DVBLink software for my NAS, and then I'll have a central network PVR with full EPG, and clients available on all platforms and also Kodi.

The box does do RTSP too but I haven't tried any of that.

tyler69 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 26, 2015, 12:51:43 pm »

Quote from: tyler69 on August 12, 2015, 03:40:04 am

Any news? I hope this will find it's way into MC20?!

Yaobing · « **Reply #35 on:** August 26, 2015, 03:15:25 pm »

Sorry. I have been distracted by other things, and I took a vacation too.

Since we have already stopped MC20 development, whatever came out of this will not be in MC20. It will be in MC21.

tyler69 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 25, 2016, 08:12:41 am »

Any news on this?

Yaobing · « **Reply #37 on:** January 25, 2016, 08:53:29 am »

Sorry, still no progress.

Yaobing · « **Reply #38 on:** April 20, 2016, 05:24:12 pm »

I have resumed working on supporting Sat>IP devices.

As you may already know, previously I got to the point where devices can be discovered on the network.

Now I have coded playback (and hopefully recording will just fall through naturally), but I have not figured out how to effectively scan for channels. So I added manual channel addition and editing.

I would appreciate those who have such devices give it a try when a new build that contains this is out (I will let you know).

Yaobing · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2016, 09:37:38 pm »

The new functionality will appear in build 76. It will be a few days before it is released.

In the mean time, if you would like to test now, you can install the latest build (build 21.0.72) available on MC 21 board, then download the following zipped package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mqadgczsz6f34x/TV%20Files%20for%20testing.zip?dl=0

Unzip the downloaded package and copy both exe and dll files into Media Center 21 installation folder (usually "C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 21").

Yaobing · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2016, 11:25:18 am »

MC build 21.0.76 is now available on MC21 board.

Testing of Sat>IP functionality is appreciated. There is no history item for it since it is not fully functional. Please test by adding a Sat>IP channel manually and try playing it (with logging on).

Yaobing · « **Reply #41 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:12:18 am »

No one is interested?

CountryBumkin · « **Reply #42 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:44:28 am »

maybe send tyler69 a PM to let him know you have something ready for testing.

tyler69 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:53:34 am »

Thanks for the heads up, I did not buy 21 though. I use DVBViewer for tv now.

beckma · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2016, 05:54:28 am »

Hello Yaobing,
I have two Digital Devices Octopus Net (SAT>IP) devices here in Germany.
One DVB S2 and one DVB C.
I also have 4 licenses of JRiver V21.
I would like to test the SAT>IP functionality in MC 21.
Please can you explain me how to set up this functionality.
I didn't managed it so far.
I'm really interested in the functionality, because I would like to use the JRiver Convolver when I'm watching TV.

regards
Markus

Yaobing · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2016, 10:31:39 am »

Quote from: beckma on July 06, 2016, 05:54:28 am

Hello Yaobing,
I have two Digital Devices Octopus Net (SAT>IP) devices here in Germany.
One DVB S2 and one DVB C.
I also have 4 licenses of JRiver V21.
I would like to test the SAT>IP functionality in MC 21.
Please can you explain me how to set up this functionality.
I didn't managed it so far.
I'm really interested in the functionality, because I would like to use the JRiver Convolver when I'm watching TV.

regards
Markus

Hi Markus,

At the moment, there is no way of scanning for channels. To test, you need to manually add a couple of channels and see if you will be able to play them.

Before you start doing anything, please make sure logging is turned on. Then restart MC.

To add a channel, select Television on the tree in the left panel in Standard view. Then click TV Options... button. In the resulting window, click "Manage Channels..." in the Channels group. A pop up window will show your existing channels, if you have any, on the left hand side, and some buttons on the lower right-hand side. Click the "Add" button to get a "Add channel" dialog window to appear. In that window, you need to enter as many parameters as you can, starting with selecting "SAT>IP" from the "Type" field on top.

Once you finish adding a channel, you can exit all dialog windows and try playing the added channel.

beckma · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2016, 09:19:13 am »

Hello Yaobing,
I added a channel as you described it.
See Picture ARD.jpg.
Then I tried to Play a channel. But it's not working.
see log.

How to go on?

Yaobing · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2016, 02:18:11 pm »

Thanks for the log. I will examine the log and see if I can figure it out.

beckma · « **Reply #48 on:** July 11, 2016, 03:07:12 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
anithing new?

regards
Markus

Yaobing · « **Reply #49 on:** July 11, 2016, 09:45:46 pm »

Sorry, not yet.

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