Topic: Is MC Desert Island Proof? (Read 3950 times)

xzeezeex · « **on:** November 10, 2011, 02:12:27 pm »

I'm a long-time Media Center user (since maybe version 10 or so?) and love it to death. I even run a parallels virtual machine on my MAC just to have it running.

Anyway... I've had to install and reinstall MC many times, and every time I do so, I have to get a new license file from JRiver just to get it up and running. Not a huge deal, but I'm wondering: if I have a setup EXE and a legitimate serial number, shouldn't I be able to just install the software? You know, in case I'm on a proverbial desert island with no internet?

A similar problem is that MC always seems to "lock me out" when updates are available, almost like it's a beta that's expired... I then have to download a new version just to get up and running again...

Is there a way to address both of these issues?

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2011, 02:16:35 pm »

Thanks for your business. When you restore, you receive an Install Key that is good for 14 days. After that, you need to do a restore again. This is explained in the Purchase section above.

Sometimes we "force" an update. We don't do it unless it's very important.

xzeezeex · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2011, 02:20:03 pm »

So is there really no way to use the software without either a) the internet or b) jriver?

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:08:27 pm »

Everything would still work, but you couldn't install on a new machine. Neither the Internet nor JRiver are going anywhere soon.

glynor · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:33:49 pm »

This made me laugh...

I use MC basically every day on a desert island.

Mount Desert Island, to be exact.

xzeezeex · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:37:10 pm »

You know, I hope so, and I wish you the best and continued success. But with the way the global economy is today, you should consider making it possible for people to continue to use your software even if your company is no longer around. I for one will continue using MC long into the future. It really has no competition as far as I'm concerned.

Listener · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:45:26 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 02:20:03 pm

So is there really no way to use the software without either a) the internet or b) jriver?

If your PC running MC doesn't have an internet connection, MC won't check for updates.

If your PC is connected to the internet and you don't want MC to check for updates automatically, you can turn off that feature.

I have MC 12 and MC 15 installed on one PC. They have run without updates or re-installation for many months. No reason you can't do this with MC 16,17 ...

> you should consider making it possible for people to continue to use your software even if your company
> is no longer around. I for one will continue using MC long into the future.

For the present, they are doing a good job of staying in business.

Bill

xzeezeex · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2011, 03:57:58 pm »

Would a "portable install" with updates turned off be essentially what I'm talking about?

Sauzee · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:17:16 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 03:37:10 pm

You know, I hope so, and I wish you the best and continued success. But with the way the global economy is today, you should consider making it possible for people to continue to use your software even if your company is no longer around.

I've often thought about this too!

JimH · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2011, 04:30:01 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 03:57:58 pm

Would a "portable install" with updates turned off be essentially what I'm talking about?

No.

rick.ca · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:06:55 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 03:37:10 pm

You know, I hope so, and I wish you the best and continued success. But with the way the global economy is today, you should consider making it possible for people to continue to use your software even if your company is no longer around. I for one will continue using MC long into the future. It really has no competition as far as I'm concerned.

Good point. Global economic meltdown is nothing compared to the loss of MC! JRiver should hedge by marketing a hand-powered computer with an internet-less version of MC installed. In the new world order, it may be better currency than toilet paper...

glynor · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:15:40 pm »

Quote from: rick.ca on November 10, 2011, 05:06:55 pm

Good point. Global economic meltdown is nothing compared to the loss of MC! JRiver should hedge by marketing a hand-powered computer with an internet-less version of MC installed. In the new world order, it may be better currency than toilet paper...

Hah!!

More seriously, an easier solution would just be for Jim to swear upon everything that is good and holy that if JRiver is about to go under (ie. he puts it in his Will), that they will send out a restore key to all users in good standing with a current license that never expires.

Problem solved.

JimH · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:17:07 pm »

Quote from: glynor on November 10, 2011, 05:15:40 pm

More seriously, an easier solution would just be for Jim to swear upon everything that is good and holy that if JRiver is about to go under (ie. he puts it in his Will), that they will send out a restore key to all users in good standing with a current license that never expires.

I prefer the solution where you keep sending money and we keep writing code.

glynor · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:22:22 pm »

Quote from: JimH on November 10, 2011, 05:17:07 pm

I prefer the solution where you keep sending money and we keep writing code.

I'm down with that.

pcstockton · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:26:55 pm »

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You know, I hope so, and I wish you the best and continued success. But with the way the global economy is today, you should consider making it possible for people to continue to use your software even if your company is no longer around.

Yeah... I can just see it as a selling point on MC's website.

"In the event of our company going tits up, our licensing process allows you to continue to install the program long after we have filed for bankruptcy."

glynor · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:31:46 pm »

Quote from: pcstockton on November 10, 2011, 05:26:55 pm

"In the event of our company going tits up, our licensing process allows you to continue to install the program long after we have filed for bankruptcy."

Not sure if you were serious, but...

Because that is just the kind of PR you want to advertise: We May Go Tits Up.

xzeezeex · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:32:16 pm »

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"In the event of our company going tits up, our licensing process allows you to continue to install the program long after we have filed for bankruptcy."

You mean like almost all of the other software I've ever purchased?

I think most people would assume they could use the software w/o JRiver. Guess they'd find out otherwise, but by then who really cares, right?

glynor · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2011, 05:33:46 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 05:32:16 pm

You mean like almost all of the other software I've ever purchased?

For the record, this does NOT include:

Windows 7
Windows Vista
Any Adobe Creative Suite product since CS1
(and to include a little-guy example)
SyncBack SE

pcstockton · « **Reply #18 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:04:57 pm »

Quote from: glynor on November 10, 2011, 05:31:46 pm

Not sure if you were serious, but...

Because that is just the kind of PR you want to advertise: We May Go Tits Up.

as sarcastic as possible my friend.

xzeezeex · « **Reply #19 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:14:19 pm »

Think I've gotten my answer: no.

Like I said, I wish this company the best, but consider what I'm saying. Or not.

BTW, changing the main subject title to something other than what I originally posted: real classy.

glynor · « **Reply #20 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:17:22 pm »

Quote from: pcstockton on November 10, 2011, 06:04:57 pm

as sarcastic as possible my friend.

Sorry.... My filter seems to be broken today.

JimH · « **Reply #21 on:** November 10, 2011, 06:18:14 pm »

Quote from: xzeezeex on November 10, 2011, 06:14:19 pm

BTW, changing the main subject title to something other than what I originally posted: real classy.

My fault. Sorry if it bothers you.

I wish you a long and happy life.

flac.rules · « **Reply #22 on:** November 11, 2011, 01:51:31 am »

More to a practical concern, remeber to try to run a video before you go on the road to a place without internt, i got "burned" by that once, I went on a trip, loaded the laptop with some movies, but the red-october-filters wasn't installed. If you really plan on going to a place with no internet for an extended period.

phalanthus · « **Reply #23 on:** November 11, 2011, 02:46:32 am »

this is funny
best wishes to all

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