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JimH:
I split some of the not too nice comments to a different thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73967.0
Please stay on topic and leave out the personal "you don't understand" sort of remarks.
Matt:
--- Quote from: InflatableMouse on August 22, 2012, 06:43:36 am ---Being an ex-XBMC user myself there is actually only one thing I really miss and still use XBMC for .. subtitle download.
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I think this would be a nice addition. We would start with one or maybe two sources.
Is http://www.opensubtitles.org the best source to start with?
MrHaugen:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 23, 2012, 11:14:32 am ---I think this would be a nice addition. We would start with one or maybe two sources.
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It would be nice indeed. One less application needed.
InflatableMouse:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 23, 2012, 11:14:32 am ---I think this would be a nice addition. We would start with one or maybe two sources.
Is http://www.opensubtitles.org the best source to start with?
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Awesome!
Ideally, you'd need a different source for movies and series but some sites do offer subs for both movies and series. I guess if you make this distinction from the start it be easier to add sources later that offer only subs for movies or for series, not both. For example, with the XBMC addon you can configure the scraper for series and movies separately.
For dutch, I use ondertitel.com for movies and bierdopje.nl for series.
If I had to choose a site for both movies and series and multiple languages, I'd say Podnapisi.net, but Opensubtitles.org isn't bad either.
What's really important with downloaded subtitles is for which release the subs are synced for. Without it, you'd almost always get the wrong subtitles and they won't be in sync which is useless.
Thanks for considering.
Daydream:
--- Quote from: JimH on August 21, 2012, 06:49:21 pm ---Make a proposal. Better yet, set it up and send us your library.
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It's not something I can do with the library, it's what I cannot do.
The Theater View 'editor' (Items to show + Details) it's too far removed from what somebody new would understand. It's a vertical representation of items that will be displayed horizontally (most of the time), by criteria (the "Details" part) that may escape even to a veteran user. This is a tool at engineer level. Imagine I'm a new user. I want to add an item -> the sky explodes. A Category, a Library Item, a Library Item from Standard view (wait, what? but what are the other items then, standalone items with their own logic? You mean I have two types of items and I get to juggle them... how? OMG, etc, etc), and then we set up rules on them and that will affect Theater view... where? Let's see. Go in. 2 level menus/rollers, both changing as you navigate to the point that I lost track how many level 'in' I am. This can't be too attractive to a new user. You can't 'get' them. If there is the concept of incentive to keep using Theater View this is at the opposite end.
My suggestion would be to change that part where Theater view is configured into something that is closer to what Theater actually looks like. VISUALLY closer. The menus should be in there somewhere just as they show up in Theater view. Clicking on an item should allow me to set its properties with submenues, etc right there on the item so I know exactly what I'm configuring and where it will appear.
At the far end this could become a skin editor (zing!).
Another thing. The main (first) screen has more items on the second roller than on the first roller (again I'm talking defaults, not what one can do with MC). This doesn't bod well. It exacerbates the problem of having to navigate too much to get something done (meaning played). Especially that further down the road as I navigate I have to go through a screen showing the detailed information about an item (I'm talking mainly video at this point) before I can play it (this has been discussed before).
I believe this is something worth noting. Theater view aims too hard to show you everything before you can play something, across all its views. I see 2 options: show info and items on the same view (this is what XBMC excels at on some of its more complex views) or show the items, no metadata (for whoever wants to keep it simple). And that's it, I can play stuff straight from there, don't force the user to go anywhere else. If I wanna see advanced/complete information about an item, that would be an option - key press, something - leading to a new screen maybe with a bigger poster and listing everybody down to the guy that held the boom.
I'll make an analogy. You remember how Firefox looked by default circa version 3? With icons with text names, and multiple menu, bookmark, nav, addons and so on bars? How does it look today? Simplified down to the core. And it seems everybody is happy.
Again this is all about defaults. The options to change them should still be in there, nobody's losing anything.
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