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Wish List: New MC User from XBMC & iTunes
mkok:
I agree too. I want to configure mc quick and simply. I just don't have time to learn programming. I like XBMC for its simplicity and I too tried to emulate it when I bought mc it meant asking loads of questions some answered well others not so well.
We could do with some modes/templates that will give the same functions as other media centre we could use as a starting point. MC is so much more powerfully we can then branch out a little.
By the way I love MC especially the sq, ability to use two different audio outs at the same time and of course gizmo :-)
Daydream:
--- Quote from: mkok on August 21, 2012, 04:48:56 pm ---I agree too. I want to configure mc quick and simply. I just don't have time to learn programming.
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That doesn't tell the whole truth. The phrase should probably be "I want to configure MC quick and simply and get more out if it than from other solutions". Because if it would be just about quick and easy everybody would click independently on every file and watch/listen in MPC-HC and Winamp.
At the same time arguing against (good, strong) default settings can't be exactly right either. We're approaching a threshold where the flexibility of MC fights its outright usability. "There are no defaults, just options!"... aka "From the outside in you don't understand it, from the inside out we can't explain it". That would scare away everybody.
The threshold is the moment you begin to understand how to use it. You realize you don't know everything, but you understand the method to learn it. The forces that push and pull around that threshold are very subjective. That's why it's important to offer a big incentive to get past that point.
XBMC easy? Pffff. Years ago only the third time I tried I got it configured to scan my media right. I could not understand for the life of me how the Video menu had pointers to the real location files, and database abstractions at the same time. And then there where other Movies, TV series and the likes entries on the main menu. That on some skins would be hidden by default. What is wrong with this people?? What kept me going? The screenshot of the Aeon skin I saw on Lifehacker at the time. It's esthetic force trumped any difficulty 10 to 1. But that's just me and my artistic side. The engineers of this world are probably lured in by other details.
There is room for MC to get better at what it presents, the first time it presents it, in Theater View. From my POV - graphically.
JimH:
--- Quote from: Daydream on August 21, 2012, 06:29:19 pm ---At the same time arguing against (good, strong) default settings can't be exactly right either. We're approaching a threshold where the flexibility of MC fights its outright usability. "There are no defaults, just options!"... aka "From the outside in you don't understand it, from the inside out we can't explain it". That would scare away everybody.
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Make a proposal. Better yet, set it up and send us your library.
spiggytopes:
May I chime in here?
I speak as a computer "enthusiast" (maybe nerd!) in that I will spend time getting the technical things tweaked, and I also appreciate good software like J Rivers.
My motivation for installing JR 17 was that WM7 would not play my flacs properly. I am now hooked on Theater View and the lovely backdrops to the music whilst making the most of the sound capabilities. I also feel an emotional attachment (a positive thing) to the spirit of the team and philosophy of J Rivers.
However and but ...... I just cannot get away from Media Browser for video. (believe me I've tried, doctor) It is so simple and just works. Add MB Plus and it will take you straight to the last unwatched episode of a TV series (try doing this with "Colombo" and you'll see the advantage).
I would really like to handle all media in J River but just cannot face any form of tagging or "programming" to do it. I am keen to try the enhanced video capability in JR.
Surely, Theater View could be persuaded to load up video by folder (TV, Films, Musical etc) simply? That would be a great start for a newbie.
Thanks for a great product.
MrHaugen:
--- Quote from: JimH on August 21, 2012, 06:49:21 pm ---Make a proposal. Better yet, set it up and send us your library.
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Have there not been lot's of examples? Glynor has shared his library. I'm not sure how for instance the caption looks there. But it's bound the be better than the defaults, right?
And I think Rick have posted his caption code as well. Not sure if it was complete or just some portions of it though. That might be the most complete example I've seen to date.
I'm willing to dig into this my self if there is a good chance that the defaults can change for the better. But I think that there are others that are better suited for the task.
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