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DoubtingThomas

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SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« on: January 04, 2013, 08:17:01 pm »

What is the full criteria for a smartlist with "Complete Album is FALSE"?

I have one album... flac ... that has been showing up in the list for about a month now.

All tracks are consecutive  1, 2 and 3
All tracks have the same Artist and Album string.
"Album Artist" is empty.
All tracks are in the same folder.
Media Type is "Audio"
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 08:19:07 pm »

Does the total track time amount to > 10 minutes?
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 08:21:51 pm »

The total track time for the 3 tracks is 12:51.  I have many other similar albums that are not on the list (1 - 3 tracks), and some are less than 10 minutes and are not on the list.

I must have something tagged wrong.. but I can't see it.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 08:30:07 pm »

If you select the album, and then export as a CSV playlist, including only the selected album, and post it here, I'll drop a second pair of eyes on it.  Be sure to include ALL tracks with the same Album name.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 08:35:10 pm »

If you select the album, and then export as a CSV playlist, including only the selected album, and post it here, I'll drop a second pair of eyes on it.  Be sure to include ALL tracks with the same Album name.

THANKS... I'm gonna learn something !!!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75405336/Incomplete%20Albums.csv

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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 08:46:37 pm »

Sorry, can you include ALL fields (not just the fields in the view)?  It is a setting in the export dialog.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 08:49:27 pm »

Sorry, can you include ALL fields (not just the fields in the view)?  It is a setting in the export dialog.

Sorry... of course that would help... please try again.. same link.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 09:31:31 pm »

Ok, its as I expected, but the behavior is peculiar, probably having something to do with when MC calculates the [Album Type] and [Complete Album] fields.

It is related to the [Disc #] field.

When [Disc #] is the same for all the tracks, MC will use the criteria you've noted.

When there is a gap between the [Disc #] field for the tracks, MC appears to be using a slightly different criteria.

It is not sufficient to just delete the [Disc #] values, or set them all the same, as MC won't re-calculate the [Album Type] / [Complete Album] fields, so the album will remain incomplete.  However, you can force the matter by changing any tracks album name temporarily, and then changing it back.  MC will then shortly thereafter recalculate [Album Type] and [Complete Album].

@Matt - since [Album Type] and [Complete Album] rely on the fields [Album], [Track #], [Disc #], [Filename (path)], and [Duration], perhaps those two calculated fields should be re-evaluated and updated whenever any of those field's values change.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 08:38:16 am »

Thank You MrC.

I would never have figured that one out by myself, even if I'd seen the Disc # mismatch.

Years ago I created a field called "Volume" to use as the disc number, I have no memory of why I did that instead of using the Disc # field.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 08:44:48 am »

Thanks to MrC here.

It's normal that if the disc numbers are different, the tracks will be considered different albums by the album evaluator.  One thing to consider is that a blank disc number is the same as "1" (so a 1 implied).

My understanding from MrC's description is that the bug is that changing the disc # doesn't get the album analyzer to reevaulate until you restart the program.  I'll look into this.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 12:44:21 pm »

Matt, could you please also see if Mr. Album Evaluator could ignore files in an album where Track# is null or 0. (If I, for correct album art display purposes, add a very short file with Track# 0, the otherwise complete album gets marked as incomplete, so I think Mr. Album Evaluator is a bit overzealous in this respect.)
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 01:33:09 pm »

I just posted something about Album Artist (Auto) - this tag doesn't seem to update when changes are made after initally imported.....  Can this be part of the album evaluator? 
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 09:50:43 am »

Next build:
Fixed: When changing a disc number, the program would not refresh the album analyzer fields like 'Complete Album'.
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Re: SMARTLIST: CompleteAlbum is FALSE
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 01:48:01 pm »

Wiki updated to describe the requirements for Complete-ness:

   http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Multiple_Artist_Albums#Complete_Albums
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