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[jeffspl311]

I have a collection of music videos that I would like to throw into the mix when I DJ. In order to do this, I need to tag the Videos with the same fields that I use on my Audio files, e.g. BPM and Band. Media Center thinks these are Audio only tags though, so what setting do I have to tweak so that it will give these Audio tags to my Video files?

Thanks,
Jeff

[jeffspl311]

Oh man. No replies yet? 

I thought this would be an easy one and that I just was missing the simple trick. With so much flexibility in the product in other areas, I will be really surprised if the answer is that the JRiver team just hard coded what tags can and cannot associated with what media types. Say it isn't so fellas!

Cheers,
Jeff

[MrC]

You can change the Media Type to Audio, and then run the Analyze tool. This will set BPM, Intensity, etc.  These fields can then be used in Search queries.

But you have to then change the Media Type back to Video to get the video to play.  The fields will still be populated - just not available from the column pick lists in video-only views.  If you add the columns or panes when the Media Type is Audio, you can have view access to the field data.

[jeffspl311]

Thanks for the info, MrC.

JRiver team, as you can imagine this is a less than satisfying “workaround”. It’s not even a workaround, since it doesn’t really address the main issue of needing to handle Audio and Video files the same way.

As far as tagging goes, all I’m really asking for is the Flags drop down in the Manage Library Fields dialog be enabled for ALL fields,  not just user defined fields. If that would really mess things up to have someone unselect a JRiver defined “native” field from some media type, then just add an “Additional Flags” field to the dialog so that the user can apply things like BPM and Album Artist to things like Video.

What the “workaround” fails to do is allow me to have a user defined View that lists both Audio and Video files in a single homogeneous pool. When I’m DJing I want to search this pool for “All the Cats” and find both the song and the Soundie of “All the Cats Join In”. Then I can choose to project  the album cover art or the video. Likewise when I’m browsing this pool by Genre and I’m scrolling to find a particular BPM range I could notice and be reminded that I have both an Audio and a Video for an appropriate song, and then choose which one I’m going to play.

Is the ask clear? Please let me know if I can clarify further.

Thanks for listening,
Jeff

[MrC]

You can have mixed views that show both audio and video.

Perhaps a resolution would be to have the audio analyzer run when Media Type=Video, Media Sub Type=Music Video.

[6233638]

Perhaps a resolution would be to have the audio analyzer run when Media Type=Video, Media Sub Type=Music Video.

Or implementing R128… Edit: actually, I don't think R128 would measure things like BPM. Please disregard.

I do find some of the restrictions on tagging quite confusing though.

[jmone]

Yeah - this has been discussed a few times.  MC bases much of it's view on File Type not Content so things like Music Video tends to be treaded as "video" not "music".  For stuff like Music Videos I've setup a View which is just like is already under Audio...

[Media Sub Type]=[Music Video] ~sort=[Artist],[Album],[Track #],[Name],[File Type],[Bit Depth],[Filename]

EDIT - the other view that works just like Audio is
[Media Sub Type]=[Music Video] ~sort=[Album Artist (auto)],[Artist],[Name],[Album],[Track #],[File Type],[Bit Depth]

The issue is when the Media Type is set to Video you can not add "Album Artist (auto)" or "Album Artist" as columns to you views.  The workaround is to instead add your own Expression (Add Expression Column) where

Name = "* Album Artist" ; Expression = "[Album Artist]"
Name = "* Album Artist (auto)" ; Expression = "[Album Artist (auto)]"

you can then use these defined expressions for sorting, changes, in col etc.