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NEW: Improved audio analysis and volume leveling (R128)
MarkCoutinho:
--- Quote from: mwillems on October 29, 2013, 05:59:49 pm ---When writing your files to a handheld device (MP3 player or USB stick), you can tell JRiver to "apply DSP" to the file (including volume leveling). So if your goal is to modify the files that you write to a portable device to all be roughly the same volume, you can do that with JRiver (I just did it myself over the weekend for a long car trip). It's just not part of the normal file analysis process (to avoid altering the files).
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Now that sounds exactly what I want! However, where is this 'appy DSP' option situated? I always just use the 'Rename, move & copy files'-option to copy files to my USB-stick. But there is no DSP-thing there.
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: MarkCoutinho on October 30, 2013, 04:09:56 am ---Now that sounds exactly what I want! However, where is this 'appy DSP' option situated? I always just use the 'Rename, move & copy files'-option to copy files to my USB-stick. But there is no DSP-thing there.
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I am now confused as well. I always thought you could only use the "Apply DSP" when burning a CD or using the Convert Format process...
I do not understand how one can "write DSP" to a file simply by moving it to a portable device. I load my iPod all the time but have never seen an "apply DSP" option.
Maybe mwillems can enlighten us?
VP
mwillems:
--- Quote from: Vocalpoint on October 30, 2013, 07:19:33 am ---I am now confused as well. I always thought you could only use the "Apply DSP" when burning a CD or using the Convert Format process...
I do not understand how one can "write DSP" to a file simply by moving it to a portable device. I load my iPod all the time but have never seen an "apply DSP" option.
Maybe mwillems can enlighten us?
VP
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The trick is to tell JRiver that the usb stick is a handheld device. I'm not near JRiver right now so I can't describe the exact menu sequence, but in the options for configuring handheld devices there's an option to specify a file path as a handheld device. The option probably exists because some MP3 players aren't detected as MP3 players and just show up as a drive (e.g. "N:\"). So you have to go into that option list and specify the drive letter for your USB stick as a handheld. At that point JRiver will treat it as an MP3 player that can be synced. You can then set up which files you want to sync through a number of different methods (drag and drop, send to, creating a playlist, etc.). Once you've lined up all the files you want to transfer, you need to go into "sync options" or "sync details" before you press the sync button. In that options menu there is an "apply DSP" checkbox that will apply DSP (including volume leveling) to the files during the file transfer to the device.
It may sound complicated, but if you've used JRiver with a handheld device before it should be pretty easy. I originally started using it before "apply DSP" was a thing to manually back up files to an external harddrive. By configuring the harddrive as a handheld, I can take advantage of JRiver's "only sync files that have been changed" function to reduce the amount of file transfer that needs to happen for the manual backup.
faster:
Hi Matt,
I am using current version of Media Center 19.0.66.
I think volume leveling is not working as expected. Now I have the album "Muddy Waters" - "Folk Singers" in two Versions. First one is an EAC CD Rip in 16Bit/44Khz FLAC. The other, newer one is 24Bit/192Khz AIFF from HD Tracks. Both albums analyzed with JRiver. Putting the same single Track from each album to a Playlist named "TestGain"). Adaptive Volume (Peak Level Normalize) and Volume Leveling is enabled.
- On playback the track form CD sounds much louder then track from HD Tracks. Why?
- And why is volume leveling in Audio Path the same for both tracks?
Tags for Track from CD:
Free Lossless Audio Codec (FLAC)
44,1 kHz Sample Rate
16 Bits Per Sample
2 Channels
Min Block Size = 4096
Max Block Size = 4096
Min Frame Size = 725
Max Frame Size = 11669
Padding Block = 7820 bytes
# of Pictures = 1
Type 3 (21529 bytes)
SeekTable Block (576 bytes):
# of points = 32
Vorbis Comment Block (621 bytes):
Vendor String = S
TOTALDISCS = 1
TOTALTRACKS = 14
TOOL NAME = Media Center
TOOL VERSION = 19.0.66
REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN = +0.52 dB
BPM = 62
VOLUME LEVEL (R128) = -4,480410099029541
PEAK LEVEL (R128) = -0,1 dBTP; -0,8 Left; -0,1 Right
REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK = 0.977000
TRACKNUMBER = 3
DATE = 1964
GENRE = Blues
DYNAMIC RANGE (R128) = 18,7092399597167969
ALBUM = Folk Singer
TITLE = My Captain
RATING = 4
PEAK LEVEL (SAMPLE) = -0,2 dB; -0,8 Left; -0,2 Right
DYNAMIC RANGE (DR) = 14
VOLUME LEVEL (REPLAYGAIN) = 0,5195900201797485
DISCNUMBER = 1
COMMENT = EAC
ARTIST = Muddy Waters
Audiopath on playback:
Tags for Track from HDTracks:
Uncompressed Audio File (aif)
192,0 kHz, 24 bit, 2 ch
ID3v2.3 Tag: (524288 bytes)
TIT2 (Name): My Captain
TPE1 (Artist): Muddy Waters
TPE2 (Album Artist): Muddy Waters
TALB (Album): Folk Singer
TRCK (Track #): 3
TYER (Year): 1964
TCON (Genre): Blues
TCOM (Composer): Willie Dixon
TBPM (BPM): 63
APIC (Picture) (Cover): <too large to display>
TXXX (Album Artist): Muddy Waters
TXXX (Dynamic Range (DR)): 17
TXXX (Dynamic Range (R128)): 19,3680591583251953
TXXX (Peak Level (R128)): -3,4 dBTP; -4,0 Left; -3,4 Right
TXXX (Peak Level (Sample)): -3,4 dB; -4,0 Left; -3,4 Right
TXXX (replaygain_track_g..): +7.61 dB
TXXX (replaygain_track_p..): 0.676000
TXXX (Tool Name): Media Center
TXXX (Tool Version): 19.0.66
TXXX (Volume Level (R128)): 2,6068499088287354
TXXX (Volume Level (Repl..): 7,6068501472473145
Audiopath on playback:
should i send you the two tracks for testing to logs at jriver dot com?
Thanks Erwin
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: faster on November 01, 2013, 08:39:22 am ---Adaptive Volume (Peak Level Normalize) and Volume Leveling is enabled.
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I will let Matt tackle this one - but why do you have Peak Level Normalize on? That is pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping (I believe)...
"If you use Volume Leveling AND Peak Level Normalization, you will get the loudest playback of the current playlist that maintains equal volume between tracks and prevents all clipping. The volume between tracks in the playlist will be the same, but the volume between different playlists could be different (since each playlist will have a different peak level normalization value)."
I only have Volume Levelling engaged in my current testing of v19 and that Muddy Waters records sounds fantastic.
VP
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