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NEW: Improved audio analysis and volume leveling (R128)
faster:
--- Quote from: Vocalpoint on November 01, 2013, 08:57:39 am --- but why do you have Peak Level Normalize on? That is pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping (I believe)...
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Wy not? The reason is what you have said: 2That is pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping"
There should be no SQ problem with this option, right?
Now I tested playback without Peak Level Normalize. Same problem: CD Track sounds much louder, and Audiopath shows same value (- 4,5 dB) for volume leveling. shouldend it be different for playing the different files with the same loudness?
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: faster on November 01, 2013, 09:26:00 am --- Why not? The reason is what you have said: That is pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping" There should be no SQ problem with this option, right?
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Pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping - is probably not what Muddy (or any other artist ever intended). SQ quality will be effected since playback can and will be unnatural with some material.
Adaptive Volume was really designed for playlists where you could have tracks that have wide volume swings. It then glues together a playlist volume wise BUT at the expense of cranking ALL tracks to the highest peak value (max). Kinda like listening to a poorly mastered 2013 pop album on your iPod where the volume is goosed to the max and every track is at the same relentless volume. Of course Adaptive Volume has it's place if you were in a car, a party or other noisy environment where you having everything "leveled" to the max would be beneficial. Read here for more..
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=82023.0
While everyone has their own tastes - for me personally - I would never "normalize" anything. Just let the natural dynamics of the source material do the talking - and the new Volume Leveling and R128 enhancements do an excellent job of that in v19 on their own without resorting to Peak Level Normalize..
Cheers,
VP
Matt:
--- Quote from: Vocalpoint on November 01, 2013, 10:11:30 am ---Pushing the level up as high as it can go without clipping - is probably not what Muddy (or any other artist ever intended). SQ quality will be effected since playback can and will be unnatural with some material.
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I think you might be thinking of dynamic range compression. That does not apply here.
Faster's screenshots say "Peak level normalize (fixed)". This means it's no different than turning the volume up (or down) at the beginning of the song. I think Muddy would be happy to let you listen at any volume :)
Matt:
--- Quote from: faster on November 01, 2013, 08:39:22 am ---should i send you the two tracks for testing to logs at jriver dot com?
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Yes, please.
I can't explain why the second track (aif) is showing -4.5dB for volume leveling.
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: Matt on November 01, 2013, 10:19:20 am --- I think you might be thinking of dynamic range compression. That does not apply here.
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I guess I am misunderstanding how Adaptive Volume works then. Will study some more.
Cheers!
VP
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