Topic: Give me a break (Read 2609 times)

grshakes · « **on:** March 05, 2002, 12:09:26 pm »

I've been branded a liar but would love to know why. Somebody please let me know.

Doof · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:10:30 pm »

I think you're lying about wanting to know. I don't think you really do.

Michael Horton · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:25:15 pm »

shakes

"I never tell a lie; I lying."

Original Star Trek

Kirk uses logic to defeat an evil computer that has taken over. He gives the computer a statement that is logically impossible, and the computer crashes trying to solve it:

I never tell a lie. I'm lying.

If the second statement is true, the first can't be.
If the first stement is true, the second can't be.

You gave media editor an illogical command (at least, illogical to the program) and it tried all night to solve it, but couldn't.

The title heading was not meant to call YOU a liar, but to compare your situation with the one in which that phrase was used--you know, computer stops performing after illogical command . . . .

I also didn't really mean that you should have additional primates handy when you rip your CDs, or that we nearly destroyed the planet or anything like that.

Sorry.

Michael

grshakes · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:34:18 pm »

Wow, that's telling me. I apologise for whatever I did to annoy you people, but you are wrong. I would like to know. I have had some really useful help from this site and would like to know where I went wrong.

NY40Male · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:34:50 pm »

Richard Nixon didnt LIE either

Michael Horton · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:37:47 pm »

shakes--are you still offended after reading my post above?

Seriously, no offense was intended.

I'm truely sorry.

JimH and Co -- If Shakes doen't respond again, can you send my reply in an email?

Michael

grshakes · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:44:01 pm »

Michael,
sorry, my pc is only 56k and takes ages to refresh. My reply was to Doof. No of course I'm not offended, but I think maybe Doof disagrees with your explanation. Maybe I said something wrong to Doof.
Thanks very much anyway.

Michael Horton · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:51:51 pm »

No, I don't think that Doof thought that YOU were serious, so he wasn't being serious. But maybe I shouldn't speak for Doof.

Shakes -- thank's for your understanding

Michael

Doof · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2002, 12:55:04 pm »

Nah, I was just kidding around.

It was like... in this one discussion I had with a group of people, this one person kept insisting that everybody always disagreed with him. And then everybody else insisted that that wasn't true.

And I just sat back and got a chuckle that everybody was disagreeing with him while still insisting that they didn't always disagree with him!

The same goes for this. I was honestly just kidding around. I had read the thread in question and I couldn't figure out what the "I never lie. I'm lying" thing was all about either. Next Page

Michael Horton · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2002, 01:00:25 pm »

>>>>>It was like... in this one discussion I had with a group of people, this one person kept insisting that everybody always disagreed with him. And then everybody else insisted that that wasn't true.

Thanks Doof, big hearty belly-laugh. I need that.

Sorry all, that Star Trek scenerio is probably the one thing that I remember from the original series. Guess I made too many assumptions, one of which was that people might actually ask me about it. I was so looking forward to providing that explanation. Sorry that it came about this way.

Michael

grshakes · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2002, 01:03:18 pm »

Sorry I made a fuss!!! Maybe a bit too sensitive! I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about with computer and mp3 and MJ jargon so sometimes it's a bit daunting with all you geniuses around here. I honestly thought I'd said something wrong!
Glad I didn't offend anyone
Thanks to all and keep up the good work - this forum is terrific.

Michael Horton · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2002, 01:20:36 pm »

geniuses. Second big hearty belly-laugh of the day.

Shakes -- glad to see you are still here and reading the forum.

Chico · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2002, 03:28:49 am »

Michael,

>Sorry all, that Star Trek scenerio is probably the one thing that I remember from the original series. Guess I made too many assumptions, one of which was that people might actually ask me about it. I was so looking forward to providing that explanation. Sorry that it came about this way.

I remember that episode! Actually, wasn't it the one where a guy wound up on a planet run by a super computer or some other AI. The guy had himself surrounded by beautiful women and had his nagging wife but in a glass case so he could turn her on and listen to her nag every once in a while. In the end, Kirk had all the beautiful women reprogrammed to look like and act like the guy's nagging wife, then left him on the planet with them! Next Page

(A fate worse than death!)

zevele1 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2002, 04:08:27 am »

Was something like it in "The Prisonner".When he asks the machine 'WHY'

KingSparta · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2002, 01:48:17 pm »

MHorton, Chico

>> Kirk uses logic to defeat an evil computer

that show was called "I, Mudd" Stardate 4513.3 Airdate: nov 3, 1967

sekim · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2002, 02:00:18 pm »

What was the episode when Scotty said,' its green'?

Something about saurian brandy

KingSparta · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2002, 02:25:54 pm »

MachineHead

>What was the episode when Scotty said,' its green'?
>>Something about saurian brandy

I am sure that was "By Any Other Name" Stardate 4657.5, Airdate Feb 23 1968

Aliens Assumed human form, the kelvans commandeer the starship, reduce the crue to crystalline blocks, and head for andromeda, where they plan to organize their race to take over our own galaxy! can kirk and spock save not only enterprise, but the entire milky way galaxy as well?

TedP · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2002, 03:43:57 pm »

It's one of Star Trek's favorite themes to have Kirk outsmart the computer (people were kind of freaked out in the 60's)

- the "i mudd" episode (spock says that "logic is a tweeting bird")
- nomad
- landru
- m5
- vol

and so on

good thing we've overcome our fear of computers taking over our lives.

Michael Horton · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2002, 06:02:05 pm »

>>>>>>>>>>good thing we've overcome our fear of computers taking over our lives.

After years of dealing with them we've grown so apathetic that we’ve simply acquiesced

at this point we're so addled that resistance really is "futile"

sekim · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2002, 03:19:26 am »

I seen this last night on tv.

http://www.williamshattner.com/calendar.asp

TedP · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2002, 07:05:31 am »

http://www.castup.net/clip_page.asp?ci=644&ak=

for shatner fans who havent seen this.. it's required viewing!

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