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JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« on: November 22, 2013, 06:03:46 pm »

http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter-19.0.81-1.deb

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19.0.81-1 (11/23/2013)

1. Fixed: (again) the ALT-GR key

19.0.81 (11/22/2013)

1. Fixed: Only one thread was being used in drawing.
2. Fixed: Standard View Skins (only Noire was working).
3. Changed: Filling in missing functions. Still more to do.

19.0.76 (11/15/2013)

1. Fixed: More tweaking of the ALT-GR international keyboards.

19.0.74 (11/12/2013)

1. Fixed: International keyboards, ALT-GR no longer generates an unexpected character.
2. Changed: More .deb file tweaking to work with gui installers.

19.0.73-1 (11/11/2013)

1. Fixed: Menus were in the background in some windows managers.
2. Changed: .deb to work around xfonts and platform architecture dependencies. xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi still need to be installed but aren't included in the dependencies list.

19.0.73 (11/10/2013)

1. Fixed: When first showing a window, a white box could appear at the wrong position and then move to the correct position.
2. Fixed: Tooltips (and other similar windows) could incorrectly show a taskbar button in some cases.
3. Fixed: Showing a tooltip could shift the focus away from the main program.

19.0.72 (11/7/2013)

1. Faster: Unlocked SSE acceleration in image / drawing engine providing faster performance, and better looking rendering.
2. Changed: More dependency tweaking for MultiArch.
3. Changed: Program has an icon now.
4. Changed: Configuration files are now UTF-8. To revert to an earlier release you must restore settings from a MC backup.

19.0.70-1 (11/5/2013)

1. Changed: Text drawing better supports international characters.
2. Changed: More precise dependencies for package installation.

19.0.70 (11/4/2013)

1. Changed: Timeout changed to Dec 8 2013

19.0.65 (10/29/2013)

1. Changed: An icon now appears in the Unity dock (and others) when minimized. No title yet ;)
2. Fixed: http authentication. Allows Library server auth to work.
3. Changed: Removed ogg support until the input plugin is repaired.

19.0.62 (10/25/2013)

1. Fixed: Windows title. Shows when minimized.
2. Changed: Program binary name is now mediacenter19 to allow side-by-side versions to run properly.
3. Changed: Updated debian build package to be more to spec. To replace the current version first remove the existing version (will not affect library or settings). Do this by: sudo dpkg -r mediacenter. Then install the new build. For non-debian systems, remove /usr/bin/mediacenter.

19.0.61 (10/24/2013)

1. Fixed: Pause now works with ALSA playback.
2. Fixed: Dragging the main window to position it was not working nicely.
3. Fixed: Menu tracking and keyboard navigation was not working properly.
4. NEW: Added desktop files and icon.

19.0.60 (10/22/2013)

1. Changed: Better ALSA device enumeration, should help to coexist with pulseaudio.

19.0.59 (10/21/2013)

1. Fixed: SSDP discovery stopped working after a short time.

19.0.57 (10/17/2013)

1. Changed: Prevent message boxes from popping up in /mediaserver mode.
2. Fixed: DLNA, problems with some http 1.1 devices.

19.0.56 (10/10/2013)

1. Changed: Attempt to back off requirements to SSE2.
2. NEW: If the default lucida font isn't found will fall back to a different font (requires the xfonts-100dpi package)

19.0.54 (10/08/2103)

1. NEW: Added support for 24-bit ALSA devices.
2. Fixed: When playback failed to start, it could lead to a crash.
3. Fixed: Mouse move tracking was not working, causing many UI issues.
4. Fixed: Typing in an edit control that showed suggestions could segfault.

19.0.53 (10/07/2013)

1. Fixed: Window minimize, maximize, and restore work.
2. NEW: Compiled without SSE support. Need Feedback.

19.0.52 (10/4/2013)

1: NEW: Fallback to S16_LE sound if the ALSA driver doesn't support S32_LE.
2: Fixed: Font spacing and switched to Lucinda.
3: Fixed: Added more package dependencies.

19.0.51 (10/3/2013)

1. NEW: First build.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 06:26:25 pm »

If you downloaded before seeing this message,  (18:21cst) you should redownload it. The archive was incomplete.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 05:45:58 am »

Thanks!

I'll shamelessly quote UdoS buglist :P:

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Buglist (all on Debian Wheezy 7.2 64-bit):

1. The BROWSE-buttons won't start the browser
3. none of the skins but NOIRE show the play-buttons.
4. not possible to access the burning device
5. not to many windows have titles
6. File locations can't be edited
7. Window will open delayed
9. resizing windows is almost impossible
10. window operations causing the window to flicker (background turns white, no contents visible, sometimes for long time)
    - Dragging a window behaves erratically, it jumps all over the place, suddenly moves off screen, etc etc.
11.Renaming (moving) files by setting up base path and rules generating wrong pathes:
    Base path: The base path as no effect at all
    Rule: Instead of replacing the existing path, the rule is added to the end of the existing path.
    Also, you have to enter the backslash instead a slash to generate a subdir.
12. Importing a database which was generated under Windows will not allow you to change to UNIX path declaration (would be nice to have)
13. SACD and dff/dst files aren't playing.
14. When editing a field, arrows, tab, etc don't work to navigate fields
15. Hotkeys don't work: F2 (edit), Ctrl-A (select all), Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V (copy/paste, Delete)

1. Not tested
3. Fixed
4. Not fixed
5. Not sure which windows were tested, but the ones I see (rename, analyze, fill properties) all have window titles.
6. Not tested
7. Not tested
9. Not fixed. I did notice that popup windows (rename, analyze, import details) resize and move fine (but have the update delay).
10. Not fixed. In some cases I noticed the windowbutton dissapeared from the taskbar - I had to kill the process from the terminal.
11. Not fixed.
12. Not tested.
13. DSD64 files play (thanks!), DSD128 however does not; says buffering, gives a short sound and pops up something went wrong with playback.
14. Not fixed.
15. not fixed.

New Items:
16. The Import/Single folder/Browse button doesn't work.
17. Import Details window takes long time to update after resize or move (edit: other windows seem to suffer from this too)
18. Graphical glitches with skins: Text falls outside its area, spectrum analyzer doesn't move and falls outside its area, in the top area left mouse button operates as right mouse button (shows context menu). Some skins the progress bar falls inside text area along with the DSP and repeat buttons. Cycle through the default skins to see what I mean.
19. Tooltips prevent clickage. They catch the click so you can't select or right click.
20. Popup window show correct mouse pointers for resize, main window does not.
21. MediaCenter closed entirely when I closed a tab. Unfortunately not easily reproducable (might even have been a random crash).
22. MediaCenter crashes randomly during longer playback time.
23. In DSP Studio, Output format, the sample rate pulldown is initially very small. Opening it a second time shows all sample rates.
24. Only 48kHz files play; 44.1 or higher than 48 don't play; I need to resample everything to 48 (on Xonar ST, it supports all even and uneven sampling rates). Fixed by not using default output.
25. Drag and drop isn't working.
26. Ratings don't show and can't be changed.


3. Changed: Filling in missing functions. Still more to do.

Not sure what kind of functions these are and if they require testing, but if you're able to specify we might be able to test more specifically?
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2013, 08:20:04 am »

Playback with external CUE files.

External CUE for flac and ac3 are not playing back.  Get "Something wrong with playback...".

Just take an ac3 or flac file with external CUE file, import and try to play it.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2013, 01:42:01 pm »

Hi bob,

I hate to say this, but the ALT-GR key problem is back!
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 01:53:38 pm »

Here is the new buglist. I simply added those items from InflatableMouse (hopefully you don't mind)
Since the ALTGR key doesn't work, I did not test the dir/path operations jet.

Operating system: SUSE 12.3 x64

Buglist:

1. The BROWSE-buttons won't start the browser
2. The ALT-GR key is not functioning at intern. keyboard (again in build .81)

4. not possible to access the burning device

6. File locations can't be edited

10. replaced by #17
11.Renaming (moving) files by setting up base path and rules generating wrong pathes:
    Base path: The base path as no effect at all
    Rule: Instead of replacing the existing path, the rule is added to the end of the existing path.
    Also, you have to enter the backslash instead a slash to generate a subdir.
12. Importing a database which was generated under Windows will not allow you to change to UNIX path declaration (would be nice to have)
13. SACD and dff/dst files aren't playing.
14. When editing a field, arrows, tab, etc don't work to navigate fields
15. Hotkeys don't work: F2 (edit), Ctrl-A (select all), Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V (copy/paste, Delete)

New Items in build .81: (thanks to InflatableMouse)
16. The Import/Single folder/Browse button doesn't work.
17. Import Details window takes long time to update after resize or move (edit: other windows seem to suffer from this too)
18. Graphical glitches with skins: Text falls outside its area, spectrum analyzer doesn't move and falls outside its area, in the top area left mouse button operates as right mouse button (shows context menu). Some skins the progress bar falls inside text area along with the DSP and repeat buttons. Cycle through the default skins to see what I mean.
19. Tooltips prevent clickage. They catch the click so you can't select or right click.
20. Popup window show correct mouse pointers for resize, main window does not.
21. MediaCenter closed entirely when I closed a tab. Unfortunately not easily reproducable (might even have been a random crash).
22. MediaCenter crashes randomly during longer playback time.
23. In DSP Studio, Output format, the sample rate pulldown is initially very small. Opening it a second time shows all sample rates.
24. Only 48kHz files play; 44.1 or higher than 48 don't play; I need to resample everything to 48 (on Xonar ST, it supports all even
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2013, 03:17:43 pm »

Some details to playback 48khz:
24. Only 48kHz files play; 44.1 or higher than 48 don't play; I need to resample everything to 48 (on Xonar ST, it supports all even ...

I can confirm this behavior for a bose soundlink. I use two playback zones: one is the bose, which only works in 48k mode, the other is the 631xESB/632xESB High Definition Audio Controller, which works fine in 44.1k and 48k. So, I think, it depends at sound device and / or driver used. On the same OS, I run Windows7 in a VMWare environment together with MC17 and I don't need to convert 44.1 to 48 (using the same usb-stick).   
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 08:48:40 pm »

Sorry about the ALT-GR. It might have gotten lost during our server trouble.
Most of the changes involving missing functions were small. For example, I couldn't click on a song title in a list to get a song to play but now I can.
It's hard to know what all this encompasses there were quite a lot of those missing functions that were used in a lot of places.
The big missing features like, browse, C&P, rip support, etc are all going to take some time.

As far as sample rates are concerned, the default and pulse options are likely constrained by the system default sample rate.
This is usually fixed at one particular value.
When you talk directly to the device you will have more options (limited only by the device) but of course that means there can be conflicts with other programs/system functions that do the same.
We are doing nothing at all tricky to open the sound device. We set the sample rate (as one parameter) and if the open call fails, that's the end of it.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81 for Debian
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 08:49:31 pm »

Playback with external CUE files.

External CUE for flac and ac3 are not playing back.  Get "Something wrong with playback...".

Just take an ac3 or flac file with external CUE file, import and try to play it.
It's very likely case sensitive. That could be an issue.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 02:42:42 am »

As far as sample rates are concerned, the default and pulse options are likely constrained by the system default sample rate.
This is usually fixed at one particular value.
When you talk directly to the device you will have more options (limited only by the device) but of course that means there can be conflicts with other programs/system functions that do the same.
We are doing nothing at all tricky to open the sound device. We set the sample rate (as one parameter) and if the open call fails, that's the end of it.

Ah, perfect. I didn't realize this.

The ALSA default was set to Nvidia HDMI which is unused on this system. I managed to change the default to the analog output the Xonar provides and figured I might as well change MC to Default, but then it was constrained to 24-bits 48kHz.

I've changed MC output device back to front:CARD=ST,DEV=0 and it plays everything natively at 32-bits again.

I've not tried this, but for people who need or want to use default and are looking to improve the quality, here's a nice thread that discusses the default resampler and how to change it to a better one. It's from 2006 though but might give some leads on where to look.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 02:49:47 am »

14. When editing a field, arrows, tab, etc don't work to navigate fields
15. Hotkeys don't work: F2 (edit), Ctrl-A (select all), Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V (copy/paste, Delete)
19. Tooltips prevent clickage. They catch the click so you can't select or right click.


I'm going to have to try to get you to look at these with some priority  :-*

They seriously gimp day to day use of MC, especially nr. 19 is infuriating.

Thanks for considering. :D


ps. Edited my list above.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 11:40:01 am »

If you guys are maintaining a bug list, you really should add the distro/shell being used too, so the development team has a better idea where to look. I have a new report, tooltips can sometimes appear distorted and large (see attachment). Here's my current bug list...

1. Ubuntu/Unity: You can't lock the running instance icon to the Unity dash so it'll stay in position (and reuse the locked icon) when closed, requiring you to have a second icon in the dash to open MC from the Unity dash.
2. Ubuntu/Unity: Icon in the Unity dash/task switcher is smaller and blurry compared to the normal icon.
3. Ubuntu/Unity: When you click on the Manage last.fm account > Connect to last.fm account... link, the default web browser with the authorize request is not launched (but the Information dialog telling you to press OK after authorizing appears correctly).
4. Ubuntu/Unity: Using the On Disk (external) menu item under Locate doesn't do anything (doesn't load up Nautilus to that location).
5. Ubuntu/Unity: The System Volume slider doesn't work - always shows as low volume even though the volume isn't actually low. However changing it to Internal Volume displays volume correctly.
6. Ubuntu/Unity: Options > Tree & View, when clicking on Select font... nothing happens.
7. Ubuntu/Unity: The Browse button when trying to add a folder via media import doesn't do anything. You can workaround this by manually typing in the path yourself.
8. Ubuntu/Unity: Copy/Paste hotkeys don't work.
9. Ubuntu/Unity: Copy/Paste right click menus don't do anything.
10. Ubuntu/Unity: Tooltips can sometimes appear too large and distorted.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2013, 10:19:16 am »

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I've not tried this, but for people who need or want to use default and are looking to improve the quality, here's a nice thread that discusses the default resampler and how to change it to a better one. It's from 2006 though but might give some leads on where to look.
Just an FYI, we don't use the ALSA re-sampler since we think DSP studio is better.
We explicitly open the device (whichever you select) with re-sampling disabled.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2013, 10:29:45 am »

Just an FYI, we don't use the ALSA re-sampler since we think DSP studio is better.
We explicitly open the device (whichever you select) with re-sampling disabled.

I agree about MC being better :).

I may misunderstand how this works so please bear with me. When MC is using the device called Default, isn't it mixed with sounds from other programs and system sounds? And if that is so (which is my understanding) wouldn't changing the resampler (dmix?) improve the quality? Or is that mixer independent from the resampler discussed in that thread?
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2013, 10:39:49 am »

I agree about MC being better :).

I may misunderstand how this works so please bear with me. When MC is using the device called Default, isn't it mixed with sounds from other programs and system sounds? And if that is so (which is my understanding) wouldn't changing the resampler (dmix?) improve the quality? Or is that mixer independent from the resampler discussed in that thread?
You might understand it better than me. I think the disabling of the re-sample when using the default device has a pretty fuzzy meaning.
What I'm guessing it means is when the default system rate is say 48k and you use the default device, the hardware is being talked to at 48k.
In MC, you'd want to then configure DSP studio to do the re-sampling. For other apps in the system, I assume they open the default device with the re-sample flag set so they can send to it at any sample rate which would then use the system re-sampler.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2013, 11:26:47 am »

Tooltips: sometimes, tooltips appear behind the main window (when main window is the top window)

It works fine the first time, you enter the main window, after that, it opens behind the main window (you might see it as shown below) but if you are in full screen mode ....
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2013, 01:19:11 pm »

Selecting the right audio device, it would be helpful to have some more human understanding information like in the first builds.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 19.0.81-1 for Debian
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2013, 02:09:30 pm »

Saving and loading views isn't working as expected.

I saved a view, the path looks like this:
/home/username/.jriver/Media Center 19/Library/Saved Views\My View (1).jvi

The backslash isn't a typo, that's one thing, but files in that folder never show up on Load View. I saved a view but also when I copy saved views from my other machine they won't show up.
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