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[Mountain]

Hello
I should like more text under the cover (thumbnail text) but it is not possible with "Comment" and "Disk #"
Do you have an idea?
Thanks for help

[kensn]

Man are you in luck... MrC has the answer!!

Please see the following link...

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=82843.0

Ken

[Mountain]

Thank you for the answer.
But I think it is too complicated for me.
Please give me information for my concrete case
My view  is  Album:
Under the cover (thumbnails) should be
1. line: Artist
2. line: Album
3. line: the numbe of Disk #
every album gets a certain number - for archiving in the box
ervery track of a album has the same number
Thanks in advance - kind regards

[connersw]

In your Albums view, click on the little down arrow next to Albums in the tab.

Thumbnails -> Thumbnail text...

In the Expression Editor that opens, replace [Name] with:

[Album Artist (Auto)]
[Name]
[Disc #]

[Mountain]

Thank you connersw
It does not work. The 3th line appears under the cover   but it is empty  although
every track of the album (not all albums)  has the same number.
do you have more ideas?   kind regards 

[MrC]

[Disc#] vs [Disc #] ?

[Mountain]

Thank you  MrC
There is a space between   - it does not work
Thank you  - kind regards

[Arindelle]

In your Albums view, click on the little down arrow next to Albums in the tab.

Thumbnails -> Thumbnail text...

In the Expression Editor that opens, replace [Name] with:

[Album Artist (Auto)]
[Name]
[Disc #]

Mr. C ==> This will work ONLY for me if you have named your album distinctly by disc eg multi dick box set Beethoven: The Symphonies [Solti] CD1; Beethoven: The Symphonies [Solti] CD2 etc.  If you name it simply Beethoven: The Symphonies [Solti] for all albums you will not get a break down -- the third line will read [Varies]. I tried a lot of workarounds and came up with this ...  

Maybe there is a more elegantt way of doing this  , but you could create a calculated field call it something like [BoxSet]. (see screen shot 1 I labelled this 1Erase because I'm removing it^^).  The expression I  used is

Code: [Select]

Clean([Album] - [Disc #]) This concatenates the two fields and allows the sort by Disc # and Album. The Clean removes the disc number when none is tagged.

Then you customize the view and add the new field (see screenshot 2).

Because Disc# is an integer field it I can't get it to show up so for the multi line text the OP wants.   get to the Thumbnail expression box as explained by Mr C (bravo again Mr C great post).  I used this expression (see screenshot)

Code: [Select]

[Album Artist]
[1Erase, 0] Again 1Erase would be your new field -- and the 0 [fieldname, 0] allows for it to show up on the screen. (screenshot 3)

Screen shot 4 is just a general view -- ok you are only getting two lines instead of three but seems to work.

So Mr. C what is the simple way ?! I even tried [Disc #, 0] and [Disc #, 1] with and without the spaces to see if that was the issue?

PS -

every track of a album has the same number

  Why are you doing this? you mean if you have a boxed set with 20 cds every track is the same numeral (like "1") -- how do you get that to work ?

[MrC]

Oh, I see.

In a category view, MC gives special treatment to certain fields (e.g. Duration, Track #, ...), such as outputting the average of the values, or the cumulative total, or ...

In the case of [Disc #], MC seems to be setting the value to NULL.  This makes sense in some cases, but not others.  I think it should return the total number of discs for an album -- e.g. max([disc #]) of all same-names albums -- but I can see that this might be a problem with MC's internal album analyzer or the code that special cases categories views.

So here's a workaround - create a new custom user field of Data type String, Calculated data.  Set the Expression to [disc #].  Now use your new custom field in the thumbnail text as [yourfieldname,0].

[Arindelle]

yes that's basically what I did (see screenshot), but it wouldn't split up the albums separately without customizing the view-  like , I think, the OP wanted ?  Why I merged the two together

Not so sure why you want to do this this way though Mountain

[MrC]

Exactly.  The view I tested already has the albums split by disc, so it just works there.  If you wanted a Total Disc count, some expression in the view would be required, or you could use your own maintained Total Discs field.

[connersw]

Yeah, I typed that too quickly without thinking it through.  Of course [Disc #] will not work. 

What would be the very easiest is if we could have a DiscNumber() function similar to TrackNumber().  Otherwise I don't see a way around it without a newly created field like you suggested.   

[MrC]

What would be the very easiest is if we could have a DiscNumber() function similar to TrackNumber().  Otherwise I don't see a way around it without a newly created field like you suggested.   

TrackNumber() and [Track #] are essentially equivalent.  Therefore, it is reasonable to expect that a DiscNumber() function and [Disc #] would behave the same way in a Thumbnail Text view.

What would need to change is that the Disc # field would return the Max(disc #) for any item in a Category view.

[Mountain]

Thank you very much Arindelle !!!  and all together!
It is really complicated for me, I need time to try.
Why need I the Disk number? I have about 500 CD´s and sometimes I want to find certain CD´s in the chest.
The CD´s get numbers in succession as thy ly in the box.
The next new CD  get the next number.  If there are 2 CD´s  in an evelope then should be the name
for example the first CD 5/1 and the second CD  5/2. (not integer)
I think I try with  Thumbnail text "Custom"  instead of "disc #".
Kind regards

[Matt]

What would need to change is that the Disc # field would return the Max(disc #) for any item in a Category view.

This might be a nice extension of the new class of Group...(...) functions.

What's better:

GroupSummary(Disc #, max)
or
GroupMax(Disc #)

[MrC]

This might be a nice extension of the new class of Group...(...) functions.

What's better:

GroupSummary(Disc #, max)
or
GroupMax(Disc #)

I like the idea of having a general-purpose GroupSummary function, which takes as the argument the function to perform (e.g. max, sum, min, etc.).  This has the benefit of a single, extensible function not polluting the function namespace.  Over time, you'd be able to more easily add summarizing features, and documentation is simpler (like Math, TVInfo and FormatDate).

[MrC]

Why need I the Disk number? I have about 500 CD´s and sometimes I want to find certain CD´s in the chest.
The CD´s get numbers in succession as thy ly in the box.
The next new CD  get the next number.  If there are 2 CD´s  in an evelope then should be the name
for example the first CD 5/1 and the second CD  5/2. (not integer)

You might be conflating two ideas here: MC's Disc # which is the numeric disc number used to indicate the series of a multi-disc set (e.g. Pink Floyd's The Wall - disc 1 and disc 2) vs. your own sequence number you assign to all of your discs.  For the latter, I do a similar thing - see the following for a technique you can use for displaying these:

   http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/CD_Reference_Number

[Mountain]

Hello
So I find the CD's in storage I have entered a number for each CD .
The CD's are also in this order in the box.
If a new CD to get these the next  No. & that's the next place in the box.
solution:
I 've been using the program Mp3tag (great for tagging ) each CD assigned a number ( in the program Mp3tag is the Comments field ) (= storage space ) (other comments psssible , for example borrow)

Procedure in JRiver : new rider small arrow down  :
1 "Customize View.... "
2 View as: "Category"
3 Add: "Comment" and "Name"  both upwards sort . "Use parent sheme rules for file display" enable.
4 Save (on the left in the tree appears the name of the new tab )
5 again small down arrow in the tab " thumbnails " " Thumbnail text .. " : [ album artist (auto) ] and [name] .
6 again small arrow . adjust " Sort by " [name] up (name means sorting by comment )
The covers are sorted by warehouse space .
mfg

[MrC]

Let me suggest that you not use Comment, but instead create your own new field of type Integer.

This will provide you with an easier way to add the next new CD.  When you edit the contents of your new field for new discs, MC will show you the previous list of used values for these fields.  Then, you can just press the End key on the keyboard and be taken to the last value used, and with a quick correction, bump the number by 1.

You can easily transfer your existing Comment value into your new field (select your files, right-click and Library Tools > Move / Copy Fields...).

I'm not sure if you have any questions here.

[Mountain]

Hello
Thank you for your suggest.
I use the ripnas server(windows). It usually automatically searches the data in the network
Sometime I have to tag and that is very easy with Mp3tag.
I use the JRiver only for display because I fear that JRiver change the original data.
A incompetend use and all data are changed.
Thank you for your support.

[MrC]

FYI: Media Center is an excellent tagger as well.  It will not change your audio data.

[Mountain]

Hello
You are right - but I am not an excellet user.
kind regards