Topic: Compilation CDs - Questions For Matt (Read 2900 times)

Barryd99 · « **on:** February 09, 2002, 01:12:45 pm »

Matt

Are you still planning to have MJ8 get the artists on each track from CBBD (when available}?

If so, can you give us a time frame when this might happen?

If I rip my cd's now, will I be able to go back to cddb to get the artists when this feature is added or would I have to rerip the cd's?

Thanks.

Matt · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2002, 02:23:56 pm »

Hey Barry,

From what I could gather, there's no standard way that extended info like that is stored / queried in CDDB.

Do other programs get it right? If they do, we'll take another look.

Thanks.

-Matt

BarryD99 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2002, 05:00:33 pm »

Matt:

Yes other programs get about 50 to 75 percent of the artists on compilation disks correct.

Do a search on "compilation disks" from your talkback and you will find various programs that your users have tested. The one that I am familiar with is Nirvis's CDJ (which I used before switching to MJ7).

Also, look at your old wishlists. There are several suggestions on where to look for this info.

You can actually see the track artists if you go to the properties window when reading a disk and matching to cddb under MJ7. The problem is that you are not saving the info.

That being said, you are right that where the artist track info reesides is NOT consistent. Some times it is in the first name, last name fields but more times it is in the notes section, and other times it has been added to the track title either before or after the title (obviously this would be hard to parse).

If you need more info on this, please ask and I'm sure you will have users who can help.

What I would suggest is that you take about fifteen or so compilation disks and look at the properties under MJ7 (or the try the other programs that users know work). You can see this info without having to do anything special but retrieve the data with mj7.

Again, I think what you will find is that you can easily get between 50 and 75% of the artists, not perfect, but better than nothing.

Please look into this. Several users have asked for it and I didn't realize you weren't proceeding with it.

Thanks

KingSparta · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2002, 01:18:09 am »

some how the info from page 2 "tracks" on cddb disc information dialog if you look in the "Track Artist" Frame "Display Name" needs to be checked for, if it <> "" then put this Track Artist name in the "Artist" Name.

Kelly Kiser from kkiser@gracenote.com Said it can be done (i asked) don't remember how

KingSparta · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2002, 01:43:01 am »

• Tracks: A CddbTrack object contains the information about an individual track such as the track name
and beats per minute. It also contains the same data fields saved for a disc that may vary from track to
track either because the disc is a compilation, or because individual credits change from track to track.
Thus, the track information also includes artist, label, year, genre, track credits, and notes.

6.6.1.9. Compilation
A BOOL property indicating whether the disc is a compilation, such as a soundtrack album or collection.
You can use this to change the display of information, as compilation albums tend to be more complex
because artist and publication information can be very different from track to track.

Artist
The track artist display name. This is a convenient equivalent to the Name property of the CddbFullName
object in ArtistFullName. Note that the track Artist may be different from the Disc artist as this may be a compilation album.

Matt · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:35:51 am »

Thanks guys.

Guess I'll have to dig up my "MTV Party To Go" CD and test a little.

It's going to be embarrassing...

KingSparta · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:54:50 am »

thanks matt

KingSparta · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2002, 08:46:34 am »

To: Matt

I know this is not inn Visual C but

Hi, Mark. If a disc is a compilation, the artist of the disc will
almost always be "Various Artists"

However, on some discs (we hope more in the future) will have an artist
at the track level. So you could display the artist for each track
if it is listed as a compilation.

This is relatively easy....when you download the disc object, you can
loop through tracks to get the artist for each track. Something like
this:

for i = 1 to Disc.NumTracks
Set track = Disc.GetTrack(i)
title = track.title.
next i

I hope this helps you out.

Kelly

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2002, 09:42:01 am »

Should be lots better in the next build...

Thanks for the patience everyone.

-Matt

Doof · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2002, 10:33:33 am »

Is this Kelly from CDDB cute?

And single?

Women that code excite me. Next Page

Chico · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2002, 11:19:39 am »

Down, boy!

Good boy...

BarryD99 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2002, 12:28:43 pm »

"Guess I'll have to dig up my "MTV Party To Go" CD and test a little"

Matt:

You need to test several because the artists show up is different places, more times than not under notes

What's the disgrace in compilation discs anyway? There are some great movie soundtracks out there - Have You Heard - O Brother, Where Art Thou, for example. (Listen to it, but don't use it to test because i don't think CDDB has the artists in the track info)

Tell me you don't like movies.

KingSparta · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2002, 01:54:52 pm »

Doof

>>Is this Kelly from CDDB cute?
you want me to ask for a picture?

she sounds nice, i have had some conversations with her about general things other than cddb sounds like she has her head on straight. she is very helpfull but she is also very busy. i did talk to her this past weekend also.

I asked her that this morning and she got back to me a few hours later, not bad.

and Matt\Nikolay put it in the very next build, and it works!

BarryD99

does it work for you? i know you have been waiting for some time...

>Truth be told, I pawned that one off on Nikolay...
ok, Nikolay thank you very much! i mean it!

Matt · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2002, 01:58:41 pm »

>What's the disgrace in compilation discs anyway?

I guess it's an inside joke... I've caught a lot of guff in the past for having "MTV Party To Go 2". And watch out, if you don't get why it's pathetic, you may be as sad as me Next Page

-Matt

KingSparta · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2002, 02:08:06 pm »

Matt I have that CD

Along With 3, 4, 5, 6, and MTV Unpluged

I must really be sad

JimH · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2002, 03:14:33 pm »

Matt,
MTV? What is that?

King,
Thanks for the help and tell Kelly thanks, too.

Doof,
How is Bambi? Does she have email?

dragyn · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2002, 03:15:26 pm »

King, instead of saying what you have...you're better off saying what don't you have. heheh Next Page

Running MJ with your Library on my PC slows that baby down. Almost had to reboot.

Welp, gonna go try and encode a compilation CD. Be back soon..

KingSparta · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:01:33 pm »

>>King, instead of saying what you have...you're better off saying what don't you have.
really

I found my self tonight going thru the mtv disks marking what ones i do like to add them to my kinsparta picks

BarryD99 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:05:04 pm »

Thanks Matt, Nickolay,King Sparta, JimH, et al

Yes It works!!!

Tested 2 discs, it found the track artists for both

KingSparta · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:17:05 pm »

BarryD99

out standing!

I think I will drink tonight (I needed a reason, well not really)

Bryan · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2002, 05:20:05 am »

I'm glad to see this implemented.. I asked for this some time back but may not have communicated it properly.

Thanks!
Bryan

Steve_O_Rama · « **Reply #21 on:** April 25, 2002, 04:54:28 pm »

I really would like this feature. I just ripped over 100 of Time Life compilation CD's with MJ, and manually edited all artist tags! I don't see feature in ver 8 beta. Please hurry, my fingers are getting tired.

KingSparta · « **Reply #22 on:** April 26, 2002, 01:53:05 am »

it works in version 8 if the user entered in the info correctly when adding the cd-rom to the CDDB database

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