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France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« on: September 19, 2014, 07:57:21 am »

France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq

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there must be a reason France made the first strike after the US.

I am kind of shocked it was not the UK since they think it is one of it's people who beheaded some of the reporters in recent news.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 08:02:53 am »

They were busy with Scotland.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 09:45:18 am »

You do have the strangest interest in Irak and some weird questions !



May I suggest a read here ? http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/aug/19/deaths-aid-workers-world-humanitarian-day

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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 09:55:28 am »

You do have the strangest interest in Irak and some weird questions !
He was there twice with the US Army.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 10:12:00 am »

With the US Army ? oh well  ...   it does not make the remarks about a ANOTHER country going/not going to war even more rational then.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 08:47:53 pm »

No comment.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2014, 07:10:25 am »

It isn't a joke.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2014, 08:21:33 am »

I Know but sometimes "Humor is the politeness of despair" - Chris Marker aka Christian François Bouche-Villeneuve.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 07:17:12 pm »

There is a special on 60 mins tonight about, the Islamic State group.

I personally don't see why people can't act civil with each other, and get along.

There are people in the world, that just want to kill people and be at war 24\7 like Muslim countries, and Africa, etc...

I do believe that countries need to protect their citizens, and sometimes that means they need to take the fight to the people who are doing bad things like the "Islamic State group" is currently doing.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is one bad man, and dangerous for the world.


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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 06:59:50 am »

Evolution will take care of it, but it might take another million years.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 06:35:53 pm »

Evolution will take care of it, but it might take another million years.

I think it is more likely that evolution would drive us in the opposite direction.  Or, at best, preserve the current state.

Remember, natural selection only cares if a particular trait increases or decreases survivability (and desirability to potential mates) until you have a chance to breed.

Once you breed, you can die and the trait will never be adversely selected.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014, 06:51:28 pm »

Evolution selects winners, not losers.

There are a lot of losers who imagine that they are winners, and even do win for a while.

Bernie Madoff, etc.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2014, 11:14:09 pm »

Evolution selects winners, not losers.

Not exactly.  Inability to reproduce (generally due to the unfortunate limitations of being dead) selects the losers.  The winners live long enough to reproduce effectively, and then the species evolves, other consequences be damned.  Evolution doesn't "act on" anything.  It is a verb, not a noun.

Unfortunately, I think history has shown us that scumbags like Bernie Madoff* certainly continue to reproduce, unabated. ;D

We whack off one head, but the publicity from doing so alerts 6,000,000 other people to think "Oh wow, yeah, people are stupid.  Let me get me some of that."

* I've always thought it was some kind of crazy cosmic nexus that gave us that guy with that name.  I mean, seriously?  Madoff?  And he Made Off with a bunch of money?  Work the strings...  Work the strings.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 04:51:37 am »


Just following your train of thoughts in the context of the topic.
If so, this should be really interesting in the near future : "Muslim Theocracy" versus a "Naturalist and Geologist"  theory. GREAT ! haven't seen that one before.
I'm not a Marxist-Catholic, neither a Burning-Buddhist-Pacifist or a Big Lebowski-Nihilist, but, if you are right, I can't wait to see the damage on this one.

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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 05:05:27 pm »

where is my Hookah?

if I am going to convert I might as well get high, because someone's got to be smoking something.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2014, 05:11:51 pm »

The United States, joined by five Arab allies, launched an intense campaign of airstrikes, bombings and cruise-missile attacks against the Islamic State and another militant group in Syria Monday night

US, Arab allies launch first wave of strikes in Syria

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/23/us-launches-first-wave-bombing-strikes-over-syria/

Syria to U.S.: Don't repeat 'fiasco in Iraq' with attacks against ISIS

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/meast/isis-airstrikes/

I should note I am also Shocked that Arab allies (I use that term loosely) joined in, I guess there leaders personal security, and money is at risk.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 05:00:22 am »

where is my Hookah?
if I am going to convert I might as well get high, because someone's got to be smoking something.

Stop watching mainstream media such as FoxNews and CNN otherwise you will soon believe the 5th Column is already there  ;)



.. and there is not need for a Hooka .. just move to Colorado - get high  - then you just might feel a bit like Raoul Duke watching Nixon on TV in Las Vegas. (*)
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2014, 10:54:45 am »

>> Stop watching mainstream media

who should I listen too?

got some sources?
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 12:00:57 pm »

International politics and in english ? from time to time watch Vice Magazine - Canadian origin / based in NYC shareholder Rupert Murdoch's corporation 5% and some pretenders [not in the Capital yet i.e  CNN / Hearst Corporation etc.]

Not that everything is interesting - far from it - but I think their latest : "The Islamic State" on Irak was on HBO lately (?)
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 05:02:59 pm »

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Edit : Got the full media here 42 mn  https://news.vice.com/video/the-islamic-state-full-length

Warning: this video Is very Graphic

It reminds me of the brain washing that Hitler did back in the 30's and 40's

in this case they are all doing it for so called allha, aka there current leader, and we will see at some point he has surrounded him self with lavish surroundings and money.

I guess raping girls, and woman, and killing people falls inline with praying for their god.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2014, 05:58:27 pm »

The Iraqi government's request for support in its fight with Islamic State (IS) means UK air strikes in the country would be legal, Number 10 says.

(10 Downing Street, colloquially known in the United Kingdom as "Number 10", is the headquarters of the British Government and the official residence and office of the First Lord of the Treasury, an office now invariably held by the Prime Minister.)

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29370515
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 06:00:49 pm »

They were busy with Scotland.

To tell you the truth I had no Idea anything was going on in Scotland.

until today when I watched a few news events in the past two weeks.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 10:18:55 pm »

It reminds me of the brain washing that Hitler did back in the 30's and 40's

The nickname of Jarhead is not miskaten. I'm done  ;D
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2014, 02:18:49 am »

The nickname of Jarhead is not miskaten.

That's not even a very good insult.  Jarhead is not a nickname for the Army.

As far as... Well, everything above...

Islam is obviously not "just a violent religion".  The vast majority of Muslims are regular people, just like everyone else.  The fanatics are just a tiny fraction.  The same holds true of Christianity and Judaism.  There are absolutely crazy, violent minorities of both of those religions as well.

It is authoritarianism, not particular religions, that is dangerous.  People have the absolute right to believe whatever wacky things they want, traditional or not, so long as they don't become so enthralled with their beliefs that they believe it is their mission to impose this belief-system on the rest of the world via force if necessary.  Fundamentalist sects seem to be the most authoritarian, at least in the modern era, though all three of these major religions are authoritarian to one degree or another (okay, not Unitarian Universalists, but you can only kinda call them Christians).  ;)

Add to that a healthy dose of us and our allies (and foes) screwing with the region for fifty or sixty years throughout WWII, the aftermath, and the Cold War.  Add a dose of poverty, and rule by brutal, authoritarian regimes (which they blame, not totally unjustly, on us).  Add to that eons of religious-based bad-blood.  Then, sprinkle on a crapload of money.

This is what you get.

I firmly believe that if the situation was reversed, and Saudi Arabia and Iran were running the world (and had been fighting their own proxy wars for decades) and the US was a largely isolated, poor, minor power ruled by despots?  There'd be people here strapping bombs to their chests too.  Probably in the name of God.

But, this is the situation we live in.  It makes me sad.  But, honestly?

The world is a dangerous place.  It has always been a dangerous place, and always will be.  With progress comes the ability to murder and torture one another in new and creative ways.  But that too, is nothing new.  All you have to do is look at history, and you can see it going back all the way through.  Is it worse now?  I don't know.  It is more likely that we'll do something to destroy the entire planet, or wipe out the entire species.  But on an everyday crime to everyday people level (wars included)?  I'd say we're actually doing pretty well, looked at historically.

When I was a kid, the homicide rate was roughly double what it is now.
When I was a kid, it was okay to beat up people who were gay, as long as you didn't do it in school.
When my father was a kid, Joseph Stalin was killing people by the millions in the Soviet Union, the partition of India happened, and Chiang Kai-shek ruled China.
When my grandfather was a kid, we were killing people by the millions in World War II, Vladimir Lenin had his Red Terror, and the partition of Palestine happened.
When his grandfather was a kid, we were killing people by the tens of millions, in holes, in World War I, and the British were conquering Palestine.

All the way back to Napoleon, Ivan IV, the Crusades, the Inquisition, Ghenghis Khan, and Emperors Nero and Caligula, and surely countless horrors unrecorded by history.  All the way back to living in the plains hunting each other with sticks.

One big difference?  We have a much, much, much bigger media microphone, and we hear about everything now, from all over the globe.  Instantly.  And people make money by making it as extravagant and scary as is possible.  That's not to say that we don't live in dangerous times.  Only that this is not a unique human condition.

I give us moderate odds at not exterminating ourselves by some means or another.
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Re: France strikes Islamic State group's depot in Iraq
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2014, 07:52:46 pm »

Yep
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