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MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« on: January 30, 2002, 02:24:42 pm »

Media Jukebox 8.0.195 beta is available:

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox8.exe

Please backup your library and your license.

(note: you can use "Help->Check for Updates" if you've installed a previous beta of 8.0 to reduce the download size)

History:
1. Fixed: M3U playlist file on burned CD's was including non-audio files.
2. Fixed: Double-clicking on playlist in the tree would crash MJ.
3. NEW: Double-clicking on an Audio CD in Devices would execute default double-click behavior.
4. Fixed: Library Manager would lose path to default library.
5. Fixed: CD tracks would not display information in visualizations.
6. Fixed: All "&" should now look like "&" instead of "_"
7. Fixed: When importing via the right mouse button or because of putting them in a playlist, the files would not appear in recently imported.
8. Fixed: Playback state would not be correctly determined, causing couple strange bugs.
9. Changed: Layout of File Association and Import Files dialogs was modified.
10. NEW: Added Gradient to vis star field component.
11. Fixed: Setting star density to 0 in star field component would crash MJ.
12. NEW: List filling re-written -- can easily be 2 - 4 times faster than before.
13. NEW: List sorting much faster. (especially file size column)
14. NEW: Quick play menu uses sort configuration specified in options.
15. NEW: Media Scheduler can now schedule a custom task where a program path and its command-line can be set.
16. NEW: Download Manager now has options to turn off prompting when the downloaded file already exist.
17. NEW: Music01 Server can accept command-line "/Share" to start sharing and "/StopSharing" to stop sharing.
18. Fixed: Edit channel dialog did not save the number.
19. Fixed: CDDB control would crash on multiple file lookup.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2002, 02:35:57 pm »

>>>MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...  
>>>Media Jukebox 8.0.193 beta is available:
so what version is this?
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2002, 02:47:01 pm »

>so what version is this?

The new one Next Page

And hey, let us know if you can tell a difference in list filling speed with your crazy-big library.

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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2002, 02:52:47 pm »

It's build 195.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2002, 02:52:50 pm »

Auto sizing columns seem to be screwed up. Looks like MJ is confusing which column is which when you re-arrange the order of the columns.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2002, 02:59:48 pm »

> 13. NEW: List sorting much faster. (especially file size column)

it realy is, judging from my 8000  files. don't notice any delay versus around .5 seconds before.

> 15. NEW: Media Scheduler can now schedule a custom task where a program path and its command-line can be set.

hm... why don't you just drop that beast and do the same stuff using windows' task planer?
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2002, 03:04:19 pm »

jimclark

>>Auto sizing columns seem to be screwed up
Same here, way out of wack
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2002, 03:18:18 pm »

Hi,
   I get the error "Invalid item adding (programmer error)" when trying to switch to mini-me using the toolbar button.

This error does appear to want to go away, I press OK and it immediately reappears.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2002, 03:19:22 pm »

Hi,
   If I go to Settings / Mini-me skin manager I get the same error.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2002, 03:21:12 pm »

Hi,
   Right click on a file and select "Sent To/Playlist" - the list omits SmartLists. Same as in the previous version.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2002, 03:23:08 pm »

Ingo.
>> 15. NEW: Media Scheduler can now schedule a custom task where a program path and its command-line can be set.
>hm... why don't you just drop that beast and do the same stuff using windows' task planer?

Just another way.. easier way (I think) to do the same stuff. We could use Windows Media Player to play music, Windows CD Player for audio CDs or Sound Recorder to record sound instead many of us including me chooses MJ. Maybe we're trying to do everything like Windows Next Page
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2002, 03:38:09 pm »

This is minor but it bugs me. (pun a pleasant suprise)
The bar over the top of the "crossfade" window is undeciferable.
There seem to be two buttons: the first says "Defa"
and the second says "Alternate (with [ALT] press"
The first is surely "default" I'm undecided what the second one does.
Fix it, OK? It's creeping me out.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2002, 03:41:09 pm »

Gatorbit, you can't send a file to a smartlist.

Smartlists are virtual -- just a collection of rules -- no files.

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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2002, 03:44:32 pm »

>Invalid item adding (programmer error)

I'm gonna get that crazy programmer Next Page

(but did you notice how FAST it got to that error message... tehe!)
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2002, 04:34:23 pm »

Matt - sorry, you're right.

I was trying to verify if the Quick Play / smartlist problem was resolved but I can't get to mini-me.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2002, 05:07:50 pm »

6. Fixed: All "&" should now look like "&" instead of "_"

Not fixed everywhere.  Checkout the display of CD & DVD in the right-click menu for Locate Files.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2002, 05:15:13 pm »

Column sizing is seriously confused.

Check this out.



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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2002, 05:41:49 pm »

Asked this question before, but no response...so...

How are you supposed to access the Repeat Previous Burn option if the burn list and related buttons are removed after each burn??  Doesn't make sense as implemented currently...as the user can't access the Repeat Previous Burn option unless he/she starts another 'bogus' burn list (to get access to the Repeat Previous Burn option).  Understand what I mean?

Seems like a better implementation would be NOT to automatically clear the burn list after a CD burn and provide a manual Clear All/Reset/New button and/or right-click menu option.  Then the Repeat Previous Burn option could just be removed.

Also, why when you start a CD burn does MJ jump to the Home page (in the background)?  Advertising gimmick?  If so, can the Plus users disable this annoying/confusing 'feature'?  (please)
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2002, 05:53:42 pm »

ZRocker> Can't you just click on the CD-RW under Devices?
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2002, 05:55:10 pm »

8.0.193 was reported to disable vis scaling in windows smaller than 160x160.

Am I correct in saying that this isn't working?

I've tried shrinking the vis window way down in the Default Playing Now tab, and it's always scaling.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2002, 05:56:08 pm »

14. NEW: Quick play menu uses sort configuration specified in options.

Thank you thank you thank you for this! Next Page
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2002, 06:02:19 pm »

Doof...I can click on it, but what is that going to do?  You see, sense MJ deletes the burn list after a burn, all those buttons in the CD-RW content view are GONE...no Options > Repeat Previous Burn available.  Try it...you'll see what I mean about 'useless feature'.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2002, 06:31:32 pm »

Ah, I see what you're saying. Next Page


While I was doing that I experienced the following. This is actually the second time this has happened to me. I'm just wondering if it makes any sense to anybody.

Every so often, a build of MJ will decide it wants to crash everytime I try to access my CD-RW in any way. That could be trying to burn a CD, just displaying the contents of the CD-RW, or even trying to let MJ detect it in the CD-RW settings. It always claims that wnaspi32.dll is the culprit.

So I delete wnaspi32.dll and the problem goes away. But now every attempted burn will fail.

So I copy wnaspi32.dll back into system32 and everything is ok.

Now, before you say that maybe wnaspi32.dll is corrupted, tonight when it happened, I tried the following. I immediately copied a new copy of wnaspi32.dll into system32, overwriting the old one. The two were identical. And the problem persisted. So I deleted wnaspi32.dll, started up MJ, and I can access my CD-RW just fine. I then quit MJ, copied wnaspi32.dll back into system32 and everything is fine once more.

Any ideas?
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2002, 07:45:00 pm »

Still loses mp3 entries from m3u playlists when imported.

Is there any chance of discarding the practice of importing the data from m3u files and just access the files directly?
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2002, 08:35:17 pm »

DSP option window fails to display after saving a customize mode.  I can only click "on" or "off".
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2002, 12:48:26 am »

Raymond,

> Just another way.. easier way (I think) to do the same stuff. We could use Windows Media Player to play music,
> Windows CD Player for audio CDs or Sound Recorder to record sound instead many of us including me chooses MJ.

you're right, all this can be done using standard windows stuff (I too choose MJ to do that stuff, that's why I registered it), but I normaly don't have Media Player, Sound Recorder and CD Player running. Windows Taskplaner on the other hand is a background thing that's running all the time, just as Media Scheduler needs to run all the time. My idea is not to drop Media Schedulers user interface, but drop the need to have it running all the time. Just let it submit it's tasks to taskplaner and retrieve the (filtered) list from it. So we wouldn't loose the nice and easy interface and still save around 5MB of ram another source of unwanted swaping activity that could cause framedrops on video recording.
In other areas you're using standard system services as well. Just think of windows codecs, there's no need to write them yourself, they are there, just as the taskplaner.

Just my thoughts... I'm always trying to keep my system lean
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2002, 04:25:06 am »

Bug with Tooltips:

1. When I hover the mouse cursor over the status bar, a tootip message says 'Toggle Statusbar'.  Clicking on the Statusbar does not toggle it on and off.  How do we toggle the statusbar?  I've been trying for a year to figure this one out.


2. The Player's Settings button tooltip is showing undisplayable (garbage) characters in its text:


3. The Settings tooltip info for Continuous and Shuffle is wrong (above)...I have Continuous ON and Shuffle OFF (appears they are flipped or something)
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2002, 04:35:03 am »

Zrocker-

The "repeat burn" option will be gone soon. Instead, the user will just be able to select the number of copies to be burned, then the burn dialog will stick around until it's done making copies.
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2002, 04:40:38 am »

Doof-

I'm trying to track this one down. Several users have reported similar problems, I just haven't been able to reproduce it here. It may have nothing to do with aspi or the burner control itself, but something within MJ. Any more info you find on the problem would be helpful.

Thanks,
John T.

>Every so often, a build of MJ will decide it wants to crash everytime I try to access my CD-RW in any way. That could be trying to burn a >CD, just displaying the contents of the CD-RW, or even trying to let MJ detect it in the CD-RW settings. It always claims that wnaspi32.dll >is the culprit.
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2002, 05:23:20 am »

Hi,
   Weird behaviour in File Properties brought on by pilot error. Here you go...

1. Find a file, open the properties
2. Do a CDDB look up on the file (Great work Nikolay - fixed that bug lickity-split!)
3. While the lookup is going on, go off somewhere else, browse the web etc.

(Meanwhile the CDDB lookup has completed and it has displayed (behind your browser or something) a list of album choices)


4. Come back to MJ and look at the properties. You can click in the album or other fields and type what you want but pressing return won't work. You can click in another field to complete the edit.

5. You can then click on Save.

6. You move your browser window and find the choose match window from CDDB alive and well waiting for your response.


Weird!
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2002, 06:13:15 am »

Bug:

1. With a track playing and Playing Now's Playlist being viewed, if you right-click and choose 'Update Playback Order', MJ looses the visual indication of what track is playing, see:


NOTE: No speaker icon for current track and how MJ has highlighted (in blue) the wrong track (for currently playing).  An F5 [Refresh] does clear things up.  ALSO, the Sequence # starts at 2 now (not 1) in the playlist...that's probably why MJ highlighted the wrong (previous) track in blue.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2002, 06:25:27 am »

A few bugs I've noticed:

1. In build 195, the last few seconds of a track don't play before the next track starts (no buttons pressed).  I have standard track spacing, 0.5s delay.

2. In the playing now/main tab, if I move the splitter between the visualization and song list, then switch to the track info tab, then back to main, it forgets the splitter position.

3. The player window shows only half the total time for mono MP3s.  It plays the whole song, and the little track position arrow goes off its scale, through the volume control, and keeps on going!

Thanks,
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2002, 06:36:26 am »

Oops, I have build 193.  I see you've fixed #1.

Gary
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2002, 06:53:48 am »

in v7 I could rip and encode simultanously with mpc - that is a song was ripped to wav and then encoded to mpc while mj continued to rip the rest of the songs to wav and the encoder followed along.
In the first v.8's I had to deactivate the rip and encode simultanously to prevent a MJ error.

Now I dont have to deactivate that, BUT now MJ don't just continue to rip, but pauses until the encoder has done encoding, and then continues to rip one more song, and so on.

This can't be the idea? The time spent doing ripping and encoding is significantly prolonged this way comparing to the older versions (6 & 7) of MJ
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2002, 07:00:32 am »

same here mini me aint working some kinda programin error. I was wondering since you guys are playing with the media schedular wouldnt it be great if you add an alarm feature i know you can start and stop the juke box but if the juke box is already on and its finished playing an album then in the morning it would be cool if it started playing again!! just a thought.......
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2002, 07:01:28 am »

Xstatic,

I'm sorry but we don't support "rip and encode simultaneously " for encoder which do not support that (MPC is one of them)

Nikolay

P.S: may be MPC creator will write native MJ encoder?
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2002, 10:55:55 am »

Hi,
    Set MJ to minimize to the system tray and then right click, select Quick Play / Playlist and the smartlists are missing. Same as in 193...
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2002, 11:04:05 am »

OK - Nikolay, thank you for responding.

I just wonder about it, it was possible before, why not now?
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2002, 11:11:05 am »

Like in Build 193, double-clicking a file in view (when replace all is set as action for double-clicking), MJ uses standard and not crossfade(smooth), as I have set up. Before Build 193 this worked, but now it doesn't! WHY?

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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2002, 11:16:59 am »

XStatic,

MJ 7 didn't do real on-the-fly encoding.  It would just encode one track while it ripped the next.

MJ 8 actually encodes AS it rips, so there's no intermediate WAV.  It's much faster for formats that support it.

You can always rip to WAV and convert to mpc over-night if it's too slow.

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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2002, 11:28:30 am »

OK Matt, I see your point.

As long as mpc don't support this feature, I would of course have preferred the old routine, encoding while ripping the next, but I can of course live with this slightly more timeconsuming routine.

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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2002, 12:57:02 pm »

Rearranging the order of "playing now" while actually playing causes illegal operation in that MFC***.dll thingy.
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RE:MJ 8.0.195 Beta Available...
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2002, 01:29:42 pm »

I have been using version 8 since the first release. What I have noticed, and its driving me crazy is that when playing music, there are pops and clicks. These seemed to be caused by the visualizations, but not always. This problem seems to come and go with versions. The last release seemed to be fine. The prior two or three were not, and this release seems to have the problem again. It is also noticable when using control-N to go to the next song, there is a noticable pop. Anybodyelse having this problem?


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