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Nikolay

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MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« on: January 29, 2002, 01:21:38 pm »

Media Jukebox 8.0.193 beta is available:

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox8.exe

Please backup your library and your license.

(note: you can use "Help->Check for Updates" if you've installed a previous beta of 8.0 to reduce the download size)

History:
1. Fixed: MP3 plug-in would not install.
2. Fixed: Visualizations / MJPlayer would not properly stop when reaching the end of a stream when not in standard between-tracks mode.
3. Fixed: Decoder (used for burning, etc.) would fail if the temp file directory didn't exist.
4. NEW: Wave plug-in updated: Added handling of headerless AU/SND files. Added handling of G721 and G723 ADPCM AU/SND files
5. Fixed: Metamorphis skins would not use font specified in xml file for tracklist.
6. Fixed: Drag-n-drop on self was not properly disabled in some views. (Find list, etc.)
7. Fixed: Showing the right-click menu in full screen mode would re-enable the screen-saver.
8. Changed: Visualization studio disables scaling at window sizes below 160x120.
9. NEW: Associated MJ with MJS (Media Jukebox Skin) files.
10. Fixed: MJ would crash if Metamorphis skin it's loading is invalid.
11. Fixed: Metamorphis skins would fail to load gif and jpg files.
12. Changed: Added copy and paste to the r-click menu of the search combobox.
13. Fixed: Pressing cancel on a "Send To->Next Pagelaylist->Create / Select Playlist" would produce unexpected results.
14. NEW: Added "Full-Screen" and "Last Exit Mode" to the startup mode selection. (Options->Startup)
15. Changed: Custom r-click menu's now respond to [Escape].
16. Changed: List of playlists in "Quick Play" is sorted.
17. NEW: Added "Send To" to display right-click menu.
18. NEW: Added "Reshuffle" to the display right-click menu. (under Playing Now)
19. Changed: "Re-Shuffle" changed to "Reshuffle" everywhere.
20. NEW: Added "Reshuffle" to the Player menu.
21. Fixed: Using remote control plugins would crash MJ.
22. Fixed: Several small issues with the remote control portion of plugin manager.
23. Changed: Playback engine changed from MFC to ATL.
24. NEW: Reworked playback "Between Tracks" system. (no more modes that destroy and recreate everything)
25. Fixed: Handhelds retain dropped order during uploads.
26. Fixed: WMA plug-in would lock if data was unavailable.
27. NEW: Added Alternate playback mode (Options->Next Pagelayback)
28. NEW: TV input sources work like channels. (instead of being nested in options)
29. Fixed: Vis Studio Settings dialog would reset Goal Framerate value.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2002, 01:38:57 pm »

I downloaded the file but it still shows build 189
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2002, 01:40:53 pm »

Mine shows 193.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2002, 01:48:24 pm »

bennyd,

Try downloading using check for updates, it will for sure download the latest version.

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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2002, 01:51:17 pm »

Everybody who has "Can't create Playback control" error,

Can you let us know if build 8.0.193 fixed it.

Thanks in advance,
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2002, 01:51:54 pm »

When doing check for updates, it says "No updates available at this time".

I restarted already, but no luck,

I'm using WINXP
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2002, 01:52:16 pm »

Label Wizard:

[X] Print Background Image
[X] Use Image From File

You can't uncheck "[X] Use Image From File"

Don't see any point in it any how If unchecking "[X] Print Background Image" does the same thing
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2002, 01:52:44 pm »

Hi,
    Select All in Media Library (2212 files), then right click and select Properties. The counter screen is back (I think it disappeared in 188) - thanks! The count got to 5 of 2212 and then locked.

MJ was then locked until it completed gathering the properties (around 3 minutes I think but I didn't time it). By locked it looked dead to the world although CPU usage was around 40%.

Playback continued but the display (seconds elapsed etc.) was not updated.


Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.193

CPU: Intel Pentium III 547 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 81 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.000
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2002, 01:57:06 pm »

It was my proxy that was caching, I downloaded it with ftp and now it works.

Sorry for the trouble
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2002, 02:11:19 pm »

Changed: Visualization studio disables scaling at window sizes below 160x120.

I don't know for everybody else, but for me, this is a little too small. For instance, the WMP skin I did has a vis window of 227x164, so MJ still scales the visualizations, and they still look bad.

And it also doesn't appear to be working. The Goo skin has a vis window of 63x63 and the visualizations are still scaling.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2002, 02:21:10 pm »

16. Changed: List of playlists in "Quick Play" is sorted

Sweet. Now if we can just get the actual files sorted the same way we have specified in Tree & View Settings. Next Page

One strange thing I noticed about Quick Play. If you start scrolling a list, it doesn't stop scrolling until you either click on something or make it scroll in the opposite direction.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2002, 02:25:00 pm »

Hi,
   The contents of Quick Play are sorted but they only include Playlists and not SmartLists and the other "special" kinds of playlist - Top hits, Recently Imported etc.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2002, 02:26:39 pm »

Yeah, that too. I thought it looked shorter. Next Page
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2002, 02:27:11 pm »

On the same subject I have a Playlist with a playlist and a smartlist within it. The top level playlist is not listed but the lower level playlist (not smartlist) is displayed.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2002, 02:37:28 pm »

With the new playback features, double clicking in the view pane doesn't follow the rules. It's always standard instead of crossfade between tracks.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2002, 02:48:37 pm »

Playback sometimes gets muted but it's not.

It shows that it's playing with the seconds and what not but no sound. Mute is off. Requires a restart and then it fine again. Did it on ape/apl/mp3 files.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2002, 02:55:31 pm »

I thought replay gain and other stuff was supposed to be saved to apl/mp3s etc? Nothing that was saved got reimported into MJ (clean library, full import).

Well I guess only about 5 mp3s still have the info. The rest, including apl, don't have anything.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2002, 04:06:04 pm »

Did you do the Update Library thing to update all of your tags?
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2002, 04:27:14 pm »

Yeah Dragyn, I bet that's what happened.  Maybe you missed that warning a few builds back when the meta-data format changed.

You need to do an "Update All Files" with "Extended Fields" enabled.

Hope you didn't lose much time...

-Matt

(and do you still have those buffering woes with APL files?)
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2002, 05:10:07 pm »

I saw the warning and did that when it was introduced. From the last two builds or so, I started everything clean. Actually here is what I did recently..

I would d/l mp3s and I would import them into MJ on this machine. Fix the tags (id3v2, replay gain, etc). Then I would make a copy of that file to another drive, and I would also copy it over the network. On the network computer (same version), I would import that file. Check the replay gain, tags, etc and it would be fine.

So everytime I upgrade to a new build, I have to update everything again? I don't get this. Anytime this happens, I would start a new library, import the files, and I would think since the data is stored in the file, MJ should see it automatically.

Are you changing the way the data is read and stored in the database/file in each build or is it a bug?

Is there another program that will read this data (replay gain, custom fields, album art, etc) other than MJ in the file or is it MJ specific?

Am I the only one with this problem? I'm having bad luck with computers lately...

(Oh and I sent you an email about the apl files)
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2002, 05:43:14 pm »

Still leaving off some mp3 entries on the m3u playlists when imported.
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2002, 06:49:21 pm »

LCtheDJ,

I'm stumped with that m3u importing deal.  It just works on my machine.  We'll test more though once things slow down a bit, and I know you've told us a hundred times already, but please keep on reminding us until it works.  Thanks for understanding.

Dragyn,

There have only been 2 metadata formats.  The original one and the one we switched to (XML) just the other day.  So, one update should be enough.  Maybe something is clearing the metadata though.  I'm not sure.  Can you reproduce it losing the information? (and tell us about it) Thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2002, 08:20:42 pm »

MJ would crash when double clicking on any playlist.  Work fine when select "play" on the pop-up menu.

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.193

CPU: AMD Athlon 1007 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 83 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows Me

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 5.50.4134.10
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2002, 09:31:03 pm »

- CD & DVD files are shown in my Playlist group where I created a smartlist to exclude all files that have no genre
- In visualisations & is displayed as underscore (_) (also in Mini me)
- How can I see what filter I'm using to play without having to go the the options menu ?
- Is there a way to play random songs so it plays songs more often with rating 5 and less often songs with rating 1 ?
- When importing via the right mouse button or because of putting them in a playlist, the files do not appear in  recently imported
- Can there be put a "select all" in the right mouse menu if in devices (my usb device)
- Is it possible to have the current TIME somewhere when in full screen mode ? (e.g. on the bottom bar in the right corner)
- REMAINING_TIME always shows 0:00 when using it in the XML file for in a skin
- Quick Play does not show Smartlists
- When going into options and then exit options, Media Scheduler is always put in the taskbar, even when Media Scheduler is disabled
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2002, 04:01:09 am »

I had the same problem LCtheDJ had with importing leaving off some mp3 entries on the m3u playlists.  I deleted the bad playlists and tried again with no problems.  Don't know what happened the first time but on a list of about 120 I would lose 15-20 songs.  Shorter lists lost fewer songs and really short lists didn't lose any songs on import.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2002, 04:50:04 am »

bennyd> Settings -> Options -> File Associations, make sure that "Always take control of file types" is unchecked. If it's checked, then Media Scheduler will run, as it's the part of MJ that takes control of file types. This is in addition to the checkbox for Enable Media Scheduler.

How about a simple "(requires Media Scheduler)" after "Always take control of file types"? Would that clear up confusion about it? Put it on the File Assoications options, and in the Installer when it asks about file associations?


A couple of more things : ELAPSED_TIME is broken in this build as well, not just REMAINING_TIME.


And forget that whole thing about Quick Play scrolling continuosly. It wasn't doing it this morning at home, and it's not doing it here at work, either. It must have just been some random glitch on my system last night.
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2002, 04:56:50 am »

Sometime ago there was reference to a feature that would be available in MJ8.0. It involved being able to load CD track info into the music library representing audio CDs in your collection without actually ripping them to the PC. This would allow a complete picture of your music library.

Is this feature included or in the works?
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2002, 04:58:04 am »

I'm not sure what's up with this, but the last few builds have seemed more unstable than usual. They've been crashing on me a lot, and for some reason I always associate it (in my head) with the visualizations. It just seems as though every crash I've experienced has had a vis involved in some way. I've disabled visualizations and so far I haven't experienced a crash.

I just re-enabled visualizations, turned scaling off, went back to MEGA-ME, then back to mini-me and MJ crashed. The file in question is vsc_default.dll.
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2002, 05:01:12 am »

You know, I haven't been able to use the "Check for updates option" for some time on v8.
I have even uninstalled and have done a re-install of the software....
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2002, 06:22:52 am »

With Default Playback mode set to Standard 0.5s, MJ cuts off the end of each song. Setting it to gapless alleviates the pain.. er... problem.
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2002, 07:22:39 am »

I second that "cuts off the end" problem -- it seems to cut about four seconds off the end of any playback.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2002, 07:25:12 am »

rar2667,

>>> Sometime ago there was reference to a feature that would be available in MJ8.0. It involved being able to load CD track info into the music library representing audio CDs in your collection without actually ripping them to the PC. This would allow a complete picture of your music library.

This feature is available in MJ 8.0, see under Media Library->CD & DVD

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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2002, 08:30:39 am »

I also am having problems adjusting track gap. When you click on the icon where track gap used to be, there is no selection for different gap settings. Can get around though by going into "settings" and changing it there.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2002, 08:48:29 am »

This may be an old problem but I just noticed it today. When playing music from CD, the buffering comes on quite frequently; at least 60 times for a 4 minute song. Is this normal or does something need fixed?

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.193

CPU: Intel Pentium II 353 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 138 MB
Resource Info: System - 63 %, GDI - 83 %, User - 63 %
OS: Microsoft Windows 98 SE

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4134.0600
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4134.600
Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4134.600
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2002, 11:20:18 am »

Hi,
    A CDDB bug - looks to be easily reproducable...

Select a file, get the properties and the do a CDDB lookup on it. (It then doesn't appear to matter if the lookup returns a file or not.)

Cancel out of the change to the properties and then select a different file. Open the properties and then do a CDDB lookup - MJ crashes and burns.
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2002, 12:28:19 pm »

Gatobrit,

I spent 10 minutes trying to reproduce the bug and still can't.

What OS are you using?

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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2002, 12:31:05 pm »

Nikolay,
   Here is the system info...


Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.193

CPU: Intel Pentium III 697 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 75 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000



Thanks,
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2002, 12:33:01 pm »

Here is the crash info...

AppName: media jukebox.exe  AppVer: 8.0.193.0  ModName: cddbcontrol.dll
ModVer: 1.2.0.42  Offset: 0001321b



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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2002, 12:37:55 pm »

Playing around some more here it looks like the failure happens in 1 of 3 ways...

1) XP notes that the app has failed and gives me the Send / Don't Send dialog.

2) MJ just stops running / disappears.

3) I get a C|PLS||PLS| run time error from MJ
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2002, 01:36:37 pm »

Yeah, that's happening here, too.

Here's what I did.

I picked a file, opened it up in File Properties, had it grab info from CDDB. When the box came up asking me to pick which album I wanted, I clicked cancel. I then clicked Ok, and then canceled out of File Properties.

I then picked a different file, and tried to do the same procedure. As soon as it tried to go out to CDDB, MJ crashed.

Here's the message I got.

AppName: media jukebox.exe  AppVer: 8.0.193.0  ModName: unknown
ModVer: 0.0.0.0  Offset: 46000000


Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.193

CPU: AMD Athlon 949 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 91 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.000
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2002, 01:44:42 pm »

Doof - thanks for checking and confirming.

Nikolay - let me know if there's anything I can do to help you resolve it.

(I kinda figured it was Tony Bennett it objected to...)
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RE:MJ 8.0.193 Beta Available...
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2002, 02:18:08 pm »

Gatobrit,

I thinks we got it, check out the lates build (8.0.195) and let us know if it works.

Thanks a lot for helping to fix it.

Nikolay
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