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Author Topic: MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware  (Read 3533 times)

noborg

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Hi,

I noticed something curious.  I have a scatched copy of "Eva Cassidy - Live at Blues Alley", which I tried to rip.  It failed (too many read errors).  The next time I clicked on "home" in MJ, up came an ad to purchase none other than "Eva Cassidy - Live at Blues Alley".    Seems an unlikely coincidence, since that's not a commonly-advertised album.

I could not find a "privacy notice" that explains any MJ policy.  I would not be happy to know that my database and ripping actions are monitored.   Have any of you noticed similar things, or perhaps know officially what's going on?

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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2002, 04:06:17 pm »

Maybe they are monitoring you, since that does not happen to me using MJ8.

Currently On "Home" The Best of, Miss Peggy Lee, $13.99 from Amazon

Are you sure you did not click on "Find", Under Playing Now that will pull up the current item that is in the player
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2002, 04:11:37 pm »

read the privacy policy part of the licensing agreement.
Geez ... how do you thing they make money.  Not by selling beta versions at $25 a shot.  They don't reveal your personal data, but they do get paid big time for your surfing habits and one shot ads.
Read the privacy policy section.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2002, 04:33:03 pm »

I'm going to wait for JimH's response to this one before I form an opinion but I will say that "Eva Cassidy - Live at Blues Alley" is also on my MJ home page and I never heard of her.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2002, 05:03:35 pm »

JRiver gathers no personal information about you, your music, your surfing habits, or anything else.  Period.  

We focus our energy on making great software -- not underhanded or misleading gimics.

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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2002, 05:25:43 pm »

Is there a privacy policy other than that stated during installation?
Does anybody know those guys (noborg and john)? Could they be from the Dark Side?
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Scronch

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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2002, 08:46:51 pm »

**NEVER** run MJ during a romantic interlude.  You may see yourself on one of those smut sites the next day.

And, and, I think the CIA may be peeking in my window right now!
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2002, 05:17:53 am »

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody's not out to get me.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2002, 06:24:27 am »

Doof,
I've heard this before as "Even paranoids have enemies."
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2002, 12:48:33 pm »

I run a personal firewall and the only time MJ asks to go out to the net wiht an outgoing connection is when I request program updates or to look up CDDB info. I haven't suspected spyware, but it is a legitimate question since alot of freeware music apps are going this route.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2002, 01:22:57 pm »

But, from the JRiver side, it's a little insulting to be asked "Are you spying on us?"  Maybe like someone might feel if they were asked if they used drugs when applying for a job.

And a "privacy policy statement" from a company who would do such a thing might not be totally reliable.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2002, 01:42:08 pm »

Just as long as you guys aren't watching the videos of me and my girlfriend...








...diving. Next Page
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2002, 01:45:49 pm »

noborg

I think Your Name Should Be "IBorg"

Since Installing MJ you are now part of the collective, all our thoughts are one.
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Harry The Hipster

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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2002, 02:24:07 pm »

Try installing Ad-Aware or a similar program. Quite effective in weeding out little varmints like Double-Click and ValueClick.

HTH
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noborg

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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2002, 04:50:35 pm »

All,

Thanks for the feedback.  Both the policy (Matt from JRiver) response and the anecdotal evidence make it highly likely that MH isn't spyware.  So I'm reassured.  

But I don't think it's unreasonable (and certainly not insulting) that I would like to see a privacy statement.  Trusted web brands these days have clearly-stated policies, and many support those with external audits.  I think it's good for business.  Furthermore, if in fact MJ were spyware, I don't think that would be evil, as long as it's clear to the user.   Indeed, opt-in reporting can be a good deal for both the user and the business -- the user might (for example) get the free version of MJ and any user might also get better service (Google, for example, has an opt-in reporting feature).  

js


Indeed, I think it would be reasonable
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2002, 04:52:02 pm »

Media Jukebox Privacy Policy ver. 0.0.1

1. We do not spy on you.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2002, 04:54:21 pm »

2. Unless You Spy On Us First
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2002, 05:09:53 pm »

3. Or unless it's for your own good.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2002, 05:52:55 pm »

you guys are all nuts
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2002, 06:03:49 pm »

I got dibs on cashews!
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2002, 06:48:13 pm »

I've got dibs on macs... or apples.
I'm confused!
Can someone tell me what I should be thinking, since you already know it??.....lol
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2002, 04:47:04 am »

Well, I was so tired last night that I don't know what I was thinking.

"I got dibs on cashews!"?!?

Not one of my finer moments.
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2002, 06:28:14 am »

I worked at planter peanuts for about 2 years many moons ago.

I think I cooked every nut under the sun.

My boss hit me with a stick once for burning some nuts, and I got a 25 cent per hour raise.

since I was 17 years old i guess he was paying me off so i would not report him for child abuse.

I joined the military shortly after when I turned 18.
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2002, 06:51:23 am »

>Just as long as you guys aren't watching the videos of me and my girlfriend...<

Actually... I saw that last night on "Comedy Central".
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2002, 07:01:10 am »

Yeah, CNN wasn't interested in them for some reason.
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2002, 07:15:57 am »

[yet another questionable post removed in hopes of making this place less of a locker room]
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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2002, 07:27:06 am »



[with blood running into my eyes from banging my head against the corner of my locker]
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RE:MJ Privacy Policy -- are my files and actions monitored by spyware
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2002, 07:29:00 am »

Favre would be proud.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2002, 08:08:24 am »

>>Favre would be proud.

I take it that was a football comment

Favre Stats
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2002, 11:40:53 am »

Yup.  Still the only 3-time MVP, and he did it 3 years in a row.

btw, Doof, no papers piling up here.  Can't stand 'em.  Get my news online or via cable.

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