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Denti

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137K+ songs and running slow...
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:55:53 pm »

So I have over 137,000 songs in MC, with about 2-3K more to add. It's very slow switching in standard view from "Artists" to "Albums," for example. Takes about 20 seconds! Is that my system or the program, or both?
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 06:55:32 pm »

What is your JRMark?
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 07:59:43 pm »

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 5.647 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 3.538 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 5.620 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 3.524 seconds
Score: 1037

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.430 seconds
    Flood filling... 2.016 seconds
    Direct copying... 2.901 seconds
    Small renders... 3.631 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 5.205 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 2.961 seconds
Score: 1283

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.610 seconds
    Populate database... 3.848 seconds
    Save database... 1.224 seconds
    Reload database... 0.221 seconds
    Search database... 2.573 seconds
    Sort database... 2.550 seconds
    Group database... 1.601 seconds
Score: 1703

JRMark (version 19.0.163): 1341
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 02:55:16 am »

That's not a bad machine.  A little below average by today's standards.

Have you modified your views?

Where is the data stored?
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 08:05:10 am »

Data on external HDs.

Modified only slightly the views.

I have added a new view called "New Imports" which I use to tag new music, because making changes in the other views takes so long due to the delay. I just figured it had to do with the amount of music I had.

Should it not be so slow?
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 08:51:32 am »

Your machine is maybe a third the speed of a modern fast machine.

But even taking 7 seconds (a third of 20) is way too long.

Can you make a library backup available to me?  I'm matt at jriver dot com.

You could also try experimenting with different view types and view rules.  Some will be faster than others.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2014, 08:52:07 am »

Is the library on a local drive?  The database, not the media files.  It should be.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2014, 08:53:07 am »

Also, please upgrade to MC 20.  We keep making things faster and faster.  I have no idea if it'll help, but it's worth a try.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2014, 04:32:11 pm »

Is the library on a local drive?  The database, not the media files.  It should be.

Yes. I'm emailing the library backup to Matt now. Thanks, guys.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2014, 04:45:41 pm »

Thanks.  I've loaded your library on my home machine.  It's a bit faster, but I'm getting one second or less view switch times between Audio > Panes and Audio > Recent Albums.

Audio > Albums by Year is the slowest and takes around four seconds.

So in other words I'm seeing pretty good performance considering the huge library size.

Advice?

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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2014, 04:47:12 pm »

Note that I'm using the latest MC 20, so it could be more efficient than MC 19.

Please upgrade so we're comparing apples to apples.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2014, 04:52:05 pm »

Here's my JRMark to put it in perspective:

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 3.223 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 2.147 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 1.100 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 0.724 seconds
Score: 2641

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.540 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.330 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.605 seconds
    Small renders... 1.141 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 0.786 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 0.467 seconds
Score: 5686

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.225 seconds
    Populate database... 1.101 seconds
    Save database... 0.242 seconds
    Reload database... 0.038 seconds
    Search database... 0.850 seconds
    Sort database... 0.811 seconds
    Group database... 0.592 seconds
Score: 5571

JRMark (version 20.0.50): 4633
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 09:16:03 pm »

OK, got 20 running on my laptop. Still as slow. Is it really my system that's making it this slow?
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2015, 01:38:47 am »

Please post a benchmark. 
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2015, 08:21:52 am »

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 3.424 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 3.731 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 3.405 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 4.027 seconds
Score: 1303

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.991 seconds
    Flood filling... 2.005 seconds
    Direct copying... 3.218 seconds
    Small renders... 2.799 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 3.612 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 2.972 seconds
Score: 1410

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.549 seconds
    Populate database... 3.942 seconds
    Save database... 1.383 seconds
    Reload database... 0.365 seconds
    Search database... 2.658 seconds
    Sort database... 2.383 seconds
    Group database... 1.558 seconds
Score: 1675

JRMark (version 20.0.47): 1463

This is from a 2-year old laptop. The other benchmark is from an 8-year old HTPC.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 11:28:59 am »

Neither machine is terrible, but neither is very good.

Make sure you don't have an antivirus program checking every file every time it's opened.
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Re: 137K+ songs and running slow...
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 12:09:15 pm »

2.7 \Ghz processor
4GB RAM
x64-based processor
Windows 8

on the laptop. Hard to believe it's not much faster than the older HTPC...

Playing music is fine. It's just navigating the standard view that is tough, especially when tagging and importing.
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