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BryanC:

--- Quote from: Hendrik on August 17, 2015, 10:46:53 am ---This only applies to the free upgrade for Windows 10, and was clearly documented as such in their terms. Should read those sometimes, especially when something claims to be "free". ;) It specifies "free upgrade for the lifetime of the PC" (paraphrased), which they tie to the motherboard.

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The part I'm most infuriated about is that they will just leave a user sitting there with a deactivated copy of Win10 on reboot. The only feasible option is for me to wipe my drive and download 10GB worth of Microsoft Windows all over again? Really, in 2015? How hard would it be for them to tie your old product key to your new hardware? It certainly couldn't be that hard since that is exactly what they had been doing for a decade prior to this. Maybe this paradigm is what 'new-wave' users have come to expect, but it certainly comes as a shock to a long-time system builder.

rudyrednose:
Agreed, this is no surprise.

Up to july 28th 2016 (year One), if the same thing happens to me, I will
- fresh install Win8.1 on the new motherboard and activate
- immediately upgrade to Win10, activate
- redo a fresh install of Win10 and activate
- customize Win10 to get rid of the "big brother" spying stuff ...
- take a backup image of the drive (bare OS image)
- ONLY THEN will I install and customize all my software.  
- then take a fresh backup image of the drive (like I always do on a new OS install).

I only use local accounts.

I advise everyone to make an install USB flash drive AND download the ISO file.

Question is : what will I do after july 28th 2016 ?
Hint : if by then JRMCv22 for Linux is on par with the Windows version, bye-bye M$ on the HTPCs  ;D

RoderickGI:
Hmmm, as this was a repair and not an upgrade, I would have escalated with the Microsoft call centre, and if they wouldn't do that, hung up and called back to get another customer service person. I don't think that the "sorry your PC was damaged by a voltage spike, but your Windows 10 licence died with your motherboard" response would work in Australia, with our consumer laws. However, sometimes one has to assert some force to get suppliers to honour those laws.

I would have thought that there would still be the option to do something like a Windows Repair and supply your original licence on original media, or keyed in.

Windows 10 doesn't track licences any more? How do they know your installation has been activated?

Does this mean that they have trashed their points system for recognising when a system has been changed, as opposed to just upgraded? I mean, if you change a disk, perhaps the hash doesn't change. But if you upgrade a processor, you can bet that it will. A processor upgrade does not seem like a reasonable reason for having to buy another licence of Windows 10. But then, I don't believe that a motherboard and processor upgrade justifies a new purchase either.

It seems that I will have some extra research to do before I accept their free upgrade...  >:( >:( >:(

jaxtherogue:

--- Quote from: RoderickGI on August 17, 2015, 08:46:49 pm ---Hmmm, as this was a repair and not an upgrade, I would have escalated with the Microsoft call centre, and if they wouldn't do that, hung up and called back to get another customer service person. I don't think that the "sorry your PC was damaged by a voltage spike, but your Windows 10 licence died with your motherboard" response would work in Australia, with our consumer laws. However, sometimes one has to assert some force to get suppliers to honour those laws.

I would have thought that there would still be the option to do something like a Windows Repair and supply your original licence on original media, or keyed in.

Windows 10 doesn't track licences any more? How do they know your installation has been activated?

Does this mean that they have trashed their points system for recognising when a system has been changed, as opposed to just upgraded? I mean, if you change a disk, perhaps the hash doesn't change. But if you upgrade a processor, you can bet that it will. A processor upgrade does not seem like a reasonable reason for having to buy another licence of Windows 10. But then, I don't believe that a motherboard and processor upgrade justifies a new purchase either.

It seems that I will have some extra research to do before I accept their free upgrade...  >:( >:( >:(

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Microsoft support will almost always activate a Windows license with little argument. Just call them up and tell them you upgraded a CPU. 9/10 they will help you get reactivate- you perhaps need to push them a bit harder and tell them it was a repair replacement and not a decommission.

RoderickGI:
Well that is what I thought, and was my experience in the past.

But it wasn't BryanC's experience. Read above.

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