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DarkPenguin:

--- Quote from: Blaine78 on August 12, 2015, 08:54:41 pm ---Was the 'out there' ideas which are now common place. To think, the world is round, just crazy. Science has explained a lot, and began with an open mind, but the unknown is much more vast. The ideas maybe 'out there' but not crazy.

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Yeah, this isn't unknown.

glynor:

--- Quote from: DocLotus on August 12, 2015, 07:07:22 pm ---I can accept that; however this is more like a Bed & Breakfast or a hotel where the guest pay money to use the facilities.

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I think this is a decent analogy, and perhaps a more apt one than the one I made about my home.

If you think you can go to a hotel or B&B and hang signs up on the walls that say whatever you want (or even any signs at all of any kind regardless of message) without the staff coming and taking them down, and asking you to stop or leave if they catch you, then... Well, I don't know what to tell you.

I have done work in many hotels and conference centers over the years. I don't think any of them would have tolerated that from guests, regardless of the message. And, if the message was about the establishment's business practices (even if done "nicely")?!?

I am an extremely strong proponent of freedom of speech (some would even classify me as a crazy-pants proponent of it). But I know what it is, and what it is not.


--- Quote ---But if you decry it as "censorship," you are weakening the term. You're using it to mean "this non-governmental actor is not exercising its rights the way I would in their place." You're helping to promote ignorance about rights and blurring the line between public and private. If you're calling it censorship, let me ask you: may I come over to your house at a time convenient to me and stand in your living room and explain why you're wrong in a sonorous and condescending voice? If not, why not? You censor.
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And, of course, when you pay for Media Center, you're not "renting out space" on Interact (which is free, and requires no purchase). You're buying the product. Do they want suggestions from users? Yes. Do they want us to discuss them? Absolutely. Are they going to listen to or allow ongoing discussion of every suggestion? Heck no, that's crazy. It's Jim's business, not yours (nor mine).

glynor:

--- Quote from: Blaine78 on August 12, 2015, 08:54:41 pm ---Was the 'out there' ideas which are now common place. To think, the world is round, just crazy. Science has explained a lot, and began with an open mind, but the unknown is much more vast. The ideas maybe 'out there' but not crazy.

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This is a particularly awesome example of a common pseudoscience trope. Science was wrong before, ergo maybe disprovable theory X could "become true" with additional evidence. This is not how science works (and you used perhaps the canonical example of it). In science, discarded theories aren't wrong, they fail to explain new evidence. In other words:


--- Quote ---When used like this, the "science was wrong before" trope is effectively like suggesting that our observations that gravity is an attractive force are wrong, because one day in the future we might just see something go floating up instead of falling down, and therefore homeopathy works.

So while it is true that several believed-to-be-true theories turned out to be wrong, that doesn't mean that theories that have already been proven wrong might suddenly turn out to be right.
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It is possible that another theory will come along that better describes the motion of objects in space than General and Special Relativity, as those theories came along and improved upon Newton's theories that were (at the time) provably wrong. But that doesn't mean that GPS will suddenly stop working, that all of our observations of all celestial objects were invalid, or that General Relativity will not still explain the things it already explains just as perfectly then as it does now. Just as Newton's laws still explain, perfectly, how a rocket lifts off from a launchpad. Something will just explain the edge cases better, perhaps unifying it with Quantum Theory or better explaining Dark Energy.

And two plus two will still equal four.

Your reference was made even more awesome by the fact that it is, itself, also based upon a myth. No one educated believed the earth was flat during the middle ages. This is a fable created in the eighteenth century, originally to impugn Catholics, which somehow snuck into our "conventional wisdom", that has more recently been adopted by a variety of pseudo and anti-science causes like Creationism, climate change denialism, and alternative medicine tomfoolery.

AlexS:
OK as people commented. This is something that can be used in testing. There are benefits in testing apps for all sorts of criteria. If you want to know the real benefits read the links supplied. The main benefit is improving the code. However until code is parsed it would be hard to point to the specifics. That's the point of the parser is to list them. I couldn't give a toss about the marketing side myself.

Btw Sonar has run through the certification process and it seems the software has improved display, performance and reliability as a consequence. But comparing that to jriver is sort of futile as these are different apps.

Also I don't get the idea that just because other media apps haven't done it (btw stated with no references, just assumptions, and noting Win10 has only just been released) that there is no point in doing it. I do hope jriver takes initiatives. This testing applies to all commercially available apps. What the app is categorised as is irrelevant here. This is code and therefore not very sexy to most of you.

I am certain though the overall app will be improved when going through this process. It's just another layer of quality control.

glynor:
Please stop. The other thread was already closed. Before I tried to explain and be polite, as did others above. This is a warning. No more about that for now.

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