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The word "crazy" is unhelpful
AlexS:
--- Quote from: astromo on August 12, 2015, 10:06:35 pm ---AlexS, I don't think you'll get very far trying to rehash a subject that's been locked down, by grafting your concerns into another thread.
This thread is running the risk of going the same way.
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What I've written is not a rehash whatsoever, I never got a chance to discuss.
And that's why I don't find these forums friendly or helpful. The door is being continuously shut in your face here.
No problem I'm done now. I hope what I've written may generate some internal discussion. All they need to do is run the parser.
Thanks...
Awesome Donkey:
--- Quote from: AlexS on August 12, 2015, 10:16:53 pm ---I never got a chance to discuss.
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Perhaps it's something that's just not up for discussion? They're obviously not willing to devote time (which in turn is money) in attempt at getting some sort of "official certification" as stated by Hendrik. As far as I know, no other media players have done this, so why would JRiver be any different?
Here's the better question... do any normal users of MC even care about the "certification" when MC just works on Windows 10 (and basically any other version of Windows)? I kinda doubt they do.
I find it mind boggling that people assume an company's Internet forum is supposed to be sort of democracy, when it obviously isn't. The question/concern was asked, a developer responded and an argument escalated from there until the topic was locked. How would any other company running some sort of forum respond? Some might just delete the topic(s)/post(s) and ban the users for getting argumentative with forum staff, which did not occur here. I personally thought it was handled appropriately here.
RoderickGI:
Anyone who starts by questioning how good a FLAC decoder is;
--- Quote ---Under what criteria do you define "better"?
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Then jumps is a broad and unrelated yet controversial statement;
--- Quote ---To my ears, and to many in the audiophile community who use JRiver, WMA Lossless sounds MUCH better.
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Is deserving of more than just a little ridicule. That is a classic trolling technique.
Alex, anyone who keeps pushing a process or task (run the parser), while failing to define the benefits of that process, is also deserving of a little pushback, and closing down of their discussion.
I'm sure that if you could document actual benefits of certification to JRiver, then they would be more willing to listen.
A benefit would be, if Microsoft stopped all non-certified applications from running on Windows 10, and certification allowed MC to run again.
Benefits do not include;
Running software through a parser to see if it complies with someone else's coding standards.
Gaining certification with Microsoft.
Conforming to Microsoft's standards and values. ("Customers trust the Windows brand", and yet Microsoft is dropping WMC, and forcing many WMC users to look for alternative software, such as JRiver MC. Trust?)
Almost everything else on the Windows 10 certification page.
Now if Microsoft would endorse JRiver MC as the official WMC replacement application, if JRiver became certified, then you may be heard. That would be a real benefit. (Well, probably, depending on what JRiver really want.)
Alex, you seem to be missing the difference between doing something, and achieving some outcome. Businesses, such as JRiver, are driven by outcomes.
PS: Sorry everyone if this adds fuel to the fire.
kstuart:
Instead of locking threads, how about moving them to a separate sub-Forum ?
This is not a new idea of mine, about half the Forums that I read, have such a sub-Forum.
It could be called something like "Peripheral Discussions Forum" (or come up with a better title).
(Although the sites that have these sub-Forums, where threads are moved, usually have more colorful names - one calls it "The Pit". :) )
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By the way, you do realize that all the "Beta Team" comments in this thread all say the same thing - "Yes, JRiver customers DO deserve to be treated like dirt - if we do not like what they are saying."
Awesome Donkey:
--- Quote from: kstuart on August 12, 2015, 11:03:15 pm ---Instead of locking threads, how about moving them to a separate sub-Forum ?
This is not a new idea of mine, about half the Forums that I read, have such a sub-Forum.
It could be called something like "Peripheral Discussions Forum" (or come up with a better title).
(Although the sites that have these sub-Forums, where threads are moved, usually have more colorful names - one calls it "The Pit". :) )
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I don't think this is a good idea for a couple of reasons;
1) It would look (and would be) unprofessional.
2) The topic(s) in question were already beaten beyond death with the developer(s) already responding.
3) Having such topic(s) open wouldn't only incite more trolling, flaming and arguments.
It'd be a lose/lose situation. This isn't 4chan or Reddit, it's an established company's support forum.
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