INTERACT FORUM
More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 26 for Windows => Topic started by: MrEWhite on March 21, 2020, 03:54:56 pm
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Whenever I try to play a Blu-Ray or DVD straight off the disc or a straight rip of the disc without any conversion, I get artifacting in JRiver, but if I use MakeMKV or something of the sort to make an MKV of the disc, it works fine. Any help here? I'm using Red October HQ Best Quality, Hardware accelerate video decoding when possible, and VideoClock.
Here's an example of the artifacting:
(https://i.imgur.com/NNIfJ6P.png)
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Do you have AnyDVD or similar installed?
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Do you have AnyDVD or similar installed?
Nope. Should I install that? I've only tried playing two discs so far on here, NIN's Beside You in Time Blu-Ray and Megadeth's Peace Sells but Who's Buying DVD-A, the latters which menus just got artifacty.
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Yes, because of the copy protection those discs have. MC can't read DVDs/Blu-ray discs that have copy protection, which is the majority of discs out there. So a tool like AnyDVD needs to be used to break the copy protection, allowing MC to read the discs correctly.
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Blu-ray#Requirements
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DVD
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Actually, I'm still getting the artifacting shown in OP. This occurs when playing a ripped backup made with MakeMKV, or the original Blu-ray of this one disc with AnyDVD HD (Beside You in Time by Nine Inch Nails). I don't seem to have this issue on other Blu-rays. Maybe because of it's weird encoding? (1080p30?)
It plays fine in VLC.
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They are both music videos, right?
It could actually be the audio format on them causing the problem.
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They are both music videos, right?
It could actually be the audio format on them causing the problem.
The Megadeth one I was incorrect about having artifacts. It's just this Nine Inch Nails one. I don't think it's the audio quality, though. If I just convert the concert to MKV, it fixes the artifacting, but I want the menus in this case.
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It's not the audio quality that could be the issue. It is that an unusual audio format can cause video to glitch. It could be CPU load, or something else.
Music videos often have "unusual" audio, since the music is the important thing.
Check the source with Media Info. You might find something amiss.
Try using MakeMKV to rip a copy without audio. Does that video play correctly?
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Have you read the Wikipedia description of the Blu-ray? Worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beside_You_in_Time, particularly the "Differences between formats" section.
Maybe try a rip with the stereo Dolby Digital track and see if that glitches, rather than no audio at all as above.
If you ripped or selected the Dolby TrueHD track on the Blu-ray, maybe your hardware struggles with that.
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Have you read the Wikipedia description of the Blu-ray? Worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beside_You_in_Time, particularly the "Differences between formats" section.
Maybe try a rip with the stereo Dolby Digital track and see if that glitches, rather than no audio at all as above.
If you ripped or selected the Dolby TrueHD track on the Blu-ray, maybe your hardware struggles with that.
All three tracks, both surround tracks and stereo track, play fine on the straight MKV with no visual bugs. I'm also running an RTX 2080 Ti and an i9 9900KS, so it shouldn't be a lack of performance.
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Okay, there shouldn't be any issues with that hardware!
But there have been reports of music videos suffering video glitches before. Perhaps a forum search will find them and point to a solution.
If the MakeMKV rips fix the issue even for the "Beside You in Time" Blu-ray by Nine Inch Nails, I suspect that MakeMKV is fixing an issue with the audio. It could be that the original audio has some incorrect metadata or something. Not having the same Blu-ray I can only guess. Maybe Googling the Blu-ray would find some hints.
EDIT: Check the original and MKV file using the Media Info application. It may show up some difference.
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Okay, there shouldn't be any issues with that hardware!
But there have been reports of music videos suffering video glitches before. Perhaps a forum search will find them and point to a solution.
If the MakeMKV rips fix the issue even for the "Beside You in Time" Blu-ray by Nine Inch Nails, I suspect that MakeMKV is fixing an issue with the audio. It could be that the original audio has some incorrect metadata or something. Not having the same Blu-ray I can only guess. Maybe Googling the Blu-ray would find some hints.
EDIT: Check the original and MKV file using the Media Info application. It may show up some difference.
I think I got the right file out of the Blu-Ray. Playing the "00000.m2ts" file directly still has artifacts.
(https://i.imgur.com/nz9RwNq.png)
Also, I know it says that there's only two tracks on both, but it's not showing the third for some reason.
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Beside You in Time was my fist bluray. It's from 2007 and i feel it was quite early in the bluray days. It has never worked in MC. I always figured they messed up making it. I could be wrong but i think it played right when using the disc but not after ripping. My copy was ripped with anydvd sometime around 2010 to a folder, i just tested and it still doesnt play without artifacts.
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Beside You in Time was my fist bluray. It's from 2007 and i feel it was quite early in the bluray days. It has never worked in MC. I always figured they messed up making it. I could be wrong but i think it played right when using the disc but not after ripping. My copy was ripped with anydvd sometime around 2010 to a folder, i just tested and it still doesnt play without artifacts.
Ripped to MKV or a straight rip of the disc? I tried playing with the disc and ripped and I got the issue on both.
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Straight rip of the disc. ie ripped to had disk folder.
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Straight rip of the disc. ie ripped to had disk folder.
Ah. I think it's just how JRiver reads it. VLC plays it perfectly.
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I also noticed that neither JRiver nor VLC support changing angles during BYIT, weird.
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According to wiki that Blu-ray has problem
The Blu-ray release is encoded at 1080p30, which is not supported by the Blu-ray specification. For this reason, the disc had to be flagged as 1080i60.[7] This means that Blu-ray disc players that only read the flag to decide the format, rather than also checking the content, are only able to play this disc at 1080i60 or lower (e.g. the Sony PlayStation 3).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beside_You_in_Time
This is something @Hendrick has to look at
Didn’t try .. but I think MC supports changing video streams in MKV during playback ... you change it similarly the way you change audio tracks
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According to wiki that Blu-ray has problem
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beside_You_in_Time
This is something @Hendrick has to look at
Didn’t try .. but I think MC supports changing video streams in MKV during playback ... you change it similarly the way you change audio tracks
I tried that and it said there was only one video stream.
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I tried that and it said there was only one video stream.
Strange that while mediaInfo identified 2 video stream ... it only gives info on first stream
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Is this ever going to be looked at? I love this disc and I'd love to have it be able to be properly be played in JRiver in it's original form.
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Artifacts in the display are probably not JRiver. More likely the driver. Try turning off hardware acceleration. Try Red October Standard.
It's also possible you're seeing the effects of copy protection.
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Artifacts in the display are probably not JRiver. More likely the driver. Try turning off hardware acceleration. Try Red October Standard.
It's also possible you're seeing the effects of copy protection.
I already tried no hardware acceleration and Red October Standard. I also tried with AnyDVD and removing encryption when backing the disc up with MakeMKV and it still occurred. And, once again, it does display properly with VLC, so I don't think it's a copy protection issue.
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What artifacts look like ... post screenshot
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What artifacts look like ... post screenshot
The original post shows them.
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I have access to this particular disc, I'll check if I can see something - if its the same version.
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The original post shows them.
I thought original picture was Megadeath
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I thought original picture was Megadeath
No, it's the NIN disc. The Megadeth issue was unrelated.