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Networks and Remotes => Media Network => Topic started by: BerntF on October 20, 2024, 01:42:24 am
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Hi
Seems to be hard, if possible? to integrate Qoubus to JRiver.
Is there any simple solution to this.
BerntF
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We have no plans for Qobuz.
You can use the WDM driver to route sound through MC.
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We have no plans for Qobuz.
You can use the WDM driver to route sound through MC.
I'm a MC beginner so I didn't understand.
Is it possible a easy instruction?
Thank you
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https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/WDM_Driver
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Thank you. I read it, but no mention for Qobuz.
How can I streaming Qobuz by JRiver?
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The WDM driver is a virtual audio driver that can be used with other apps outside of Media Center. Which means you'd have to load up and use the existing Qobuz (or Tidal) app with Media Center running at the same time and set the Qobuz (or Tidal) app to use Media Center's WDM driver as the audio output in order for the audio to be piped through Media Center. There is no Qobuz (or Tidal) integration in Media Center itself, so it relies on the existing Qobuz (or Tidal) app running alongside it with the WDM driver piping the audio through it. This may not be desirable as it requires the Qobuz (or Tidal) app to be running too but it's the only way to playback Qobuz (or Tidal) through Media Center.
Be warned though, there seems to be an ongoing issue playing back 24/192 Qobuz (or Tidal) content with the WDM driver, so that may not work.
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Thank you very much.
So is not necessary Bubbleupnp and creating an HomeConnect with JRiver?
The Qobuz App sees JRiver? Also from iPad?
And the streaming flows through JPlayer with all the JRiver setting and DSP and VST?
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The WDM driver is Windows-only and is not available on any other platform, so if you're using other platforms like Android other apps are likely necessary. No, it won't work on iOS either. Again, the WDM driver only works on Windows from playback on Windows-only.
How it'd work is the Qobuz app on Windows would see the Windows version of Media Center's virtual audio driver as an option for the audio output and you could use it as the audio output on Windows.
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Thank you very much, again.
I found it
But if I want to use this remotely how can I do?
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Remotely to other devices? You can't, unfortunately. It'd only work locally on the Windows device both Media Center and the Qobuz app are running on to the audio output set in Media Center. If the audio output is DLNA-based (and not USB, SPDIF, etc.) it won't work either, as the WDM driver doesn't work over DLNA.
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But my streamer dac is upnp. I can’t connect it with usb.
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Yeah, the WDM driver won't work with UPnP either unfortunately so it's a no-go. Unfortunately that means there's no way to play Qobuz through Media Center in your setup.
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it's a nightmare!
I'm trying from Windows.
I launch the Qobuz app, select jriver driver. I choose a song and play it. the Qobuz application closes.
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JRiver sees my M120 Atoll
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JRiver sees my M120 Atoll
Yes, Media Center in generally can see and playback to DLNA/UPnP devices in general... but the WDM driver feature doesn't work for that. WDM driver doesn't work over DLNA/UPnP.
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But with bubbleupnp works
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BubbleUPnP isn't a JRiver app, it can access JRiver's libraries via DLNA/UPnP that are on the network when Media Network is enabled.
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Certain! but I meant that with bubbleupnp jriver receives from qobuz and sends to my Atoll via upnp.
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unfortunately the audio stream that jriver sends to the Atoll I can't pass it through jriver's dsp or vst
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Certain! but I meant that with bubbleupnp jriver receives from qobuz and sends to my Atoll via upnp.
BubbleUPnP's Qobuz implementation is its own and has nothing to do with JRiver or Media Center itself.
unfortunately the audio stream that jriver sends to the Atoll I can't pass it through jriver's dsp or vst
Correct. It doesn't work for audio passed through the WDM driver.
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Thanks again for your availability and clarity. However, I am very sorry because I wasted a lot of time. It would be useful to state clearly that JRiver is designed for managing local libraries and endpoints physically connected to the computer. There are other free players that allow both access to Upnp streamers and reception from streaming services by using your own DSP or other plugins and VSTs. For example Foobar2000. I would have liked JRiver more, but it is completely unusable in my case.
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JRiver supports:
Cloudplay, our own streaming service
Podcasts
Web Media
DLNA, which predates the use of "endpoint"
Client / Server using JRiver on both sides
Multiple remotes
Remote streaming from JRiver anywhere on the Internet
Your statement of what it does in only partially correct.
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Thanks for your clarification, but I was trying to achieve with JRiver what many other players, even free ones, do. And the reason is that I really like the many possibilities that JRiver offers, but that become unusable for me if I can't direct JRiver to my Upnp Atoll MS120 endpoint which has no USB port. This is the answer I'm looking for but it seems that no one knows how to do it. Some hastily say that it cannot be done and that's it. Others that it can be done but can't tell me how.
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To be clear what I was referring to above was the use of Qobuz/Tidal through Media Center, not anything with a local library/files, DLNA/UPnP outputs or anything like that. Specifically I was referring to since Media Center doesn't support or integrate Qobuz/Tidal that the only way to either get Qobuz/Tidal working through Media Center is the WDM driver on Windows, which I also pointed out that the WDM driver output doesn't work through DLNA/UPnP.
Other than the Qobuz/Tidal stuff, it should be very capable.
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So Radio, Podcast, CouldPlay, Web Media etc, works with Upnp endpoint, through the JRiver audio path ?
Would be very appreciative for a How To.
Thank you
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In summary, DSP and VST work perfectly from both Qobuz and Local and interact in real time, showing what is happening and completing the audio path to my Atoll Upnp, without USB connection.
I still have to experiment with the whole Streaming section of the interface, so that it behaves in the same way.
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As we wanted to demonstrate. After yesterday's results, today I tried to repeat the miracle, but I didn't succeed.
I have the impression that nobody cares and it's a real shame.
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JRiver supports:
Cloudplay, our own streaming service
Podcasts
Web Media
DLNA, which predates the use of "endpoint"
Client / Server using JRiver on both sides
Multiple remotes
Remote streaming from JRiver anywhere on the Internet
Your statement of what it does in only partially correct.
How can I send podcast or radio or web media into Audio Path of JRiver. All the service play, but the Audio Path is empty
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How can I send podcast or radio or web media into Audio Path of JRiver. All the service play, but the Audio Path is empty
Those go through the embedded web browser as far as I know, so it'd require the WDM driver... which won't work over DLNA/UPnP so I don't think it's possible in that setup unfortunately.
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WDM driver Tutorial?
I found WDM but I didn't understand how use it.
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Wiki
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Yes I read wiki, but it is clear, almost for me.
Need a specific example. Radio Classic, what have I select and configurate?
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Yes I read wiki, but it is clear, almost for me.
Need a specific example. Radio Classic, what have I select and configurate?
Where am I wrong?
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Depends on how JRiver is configured as to whether it goes out to the wdm device
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First I open audio setting of windows 11 and make JRiver Angelo Scozzarella default audio device
Then i open Options of JRiver and what selecting?
I try Benq, But the audio is correct bath not in the JRiver path audio
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actually sorry, jriver audio output should go to whatever your actual output device is, enable wdm and then that device should be set as the default audio device in windows, playback from a browser should automatically route to that device and then the WDM driver will activate to route it through jriver and out to your audio device.
if that isn't happening, it would suggest some other device is taking browser playback, you'd likely need to look in windows sound settings view to see where it's going
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Thank you again.
My System Default Audio Device is JRiver
In JRiver Options Audio what Have I selecting?
Not JRiver, Angelo Scozzarella I read on wiki jriver, but for example my Monitor audio output, Benq?
When I play from browser the sound doesn’t pass through JRiver Audio Path.
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If it's not even entering jriver then it doesn't matter what the output is, you need to work out where the browser is playing to first. When you play something, what does the windows sound setting show?
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When I Play from Edge browser, JRiver Media Center Device moves
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Do you have multiple zones?
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I don't know. Where can I control my zones?
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Under the playing now section of the tree
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Player, the LG TV and MS120 are each zones.
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It’s very difficult finding a solution.
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Click on a zone and you'll see the top of MC change. It means that is now the active zone. Then start playback. Test a local file first.
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Use of the wdm driver is explained in https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/WDM_Driver
This covers how to use zone switch to ensure wdm playback is handled by a particular zone
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To enable it go to Options-->General-->Features and check WDM Driver. Then restart Media Center and the driver will install.
Once the driver is installed, go to the windows control panel, and then to the Sound menu item. You should see all of the Audio devices on your system listed. Select the one labelled JRiver Media Center and click the Set Default button at the bottom of the menu as shown to the right.
Done.
In MC I go under Streaming Radio Swiss and play, but nothing
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lpc opening forever
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What is the output device?
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Benq
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Works fine with normal library playback?
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yes
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But no WDM playing
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I would look at whether it's related to that audio device or not. Switch to the file output and see if it records whatever you played.
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Sorry, very kind of you, but I didn't understand
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this device
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Seems like you have multiple threads and the wdm driver is working in the other one so seems like this one is done https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,139926.msg970456